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#1 Vay Jonynas

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Posted 08 October 2020 - 09:41 PM

Does anyone have any experience or comments regarding building or racing these AMT Slot Racing kits that were issued about eight years ago? 

 

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i understand that they were issued in at least two series / tranches with improvements made from one to the next. Does anyone have a list of the different cars in each series?

 

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Posted 08 October 2020 - 11:14 PM

The bodies are usually nice. The Blog has threads on them. I think they could have done much better for the same investment.


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Posted 08 October 2020 - 11:19 PM

I still think the company janitor designed these without any knowledge of the history of AMT or slot cars in general.


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Posted 09 October 2020 - 07:11 AM

I recall a lot of $50 kits were being fire-sold on eBay for $20.


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Posted 09 October 2020 - 08:36 AM

I found that after rebuilding and strengthening the chassis, switching oilites, axles, gears, wheels, tires and guide to modern parts and not one-off sizes, the chassis could run pretty good. 

 

After about an hour or two of work, I realized it was a lot easier to open the kit, keep the body and the motor and throw the rest in the garbage. Then I could pull out a $14 LVJ brass frame use the same parts to build a better car and not have to throw away a bunch of useless parts.   

 

 A guide flag you have to assemble????    Give me a break.


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Posted 09 October 2020 - 09:16 AM

We tried some of these in the home racer group I belonged to when the prices took a nose dive. They were a big disappointment. The frames needed serious straightening, the gears were crap, the tires didn't work on a routed track. I couldn't understand why they didn't just re-release the brass chassis from the sixties. It worked so well. And just outsource the rest of the parts. A Falcon 7 works very well in one of those old chassis for just playing around. And the shoe-box Chevy body looks great on it. 


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Posted 09 October 2020 - 10:43 AM

I agree with all the above assessments.

I don't want to waste a lot of time explaining all the instances of people buying those, bringing them to my raceway, and being hugely disappointed.

As Larry said, it's almost as if somebody that never had run a slot car, designed them.

All most as if the designer was attempting to sabotage the project.

Such a wasted opportunity.


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Posted 09 October 2020 - 11:32 AM

I agree with all the above assessments.

I don't want to waste a lot of time explaining all the instances of people buying those, bringing them to my raceway, and being hugely disappointed.

As Larry said, it's almost as if somebody never had run a slot car, designed them.

All most as if the designer was attempting to sabotage the project.

Such a wasted opportunity.

 

Gee Mike sort of like having an interior designer pick the color arraignment for the lanes on your track.


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Posted 09 October 2020 - 11:57 AM

The Blog has threads on them.

 

Before starting this new thread I was both careful and considerate enough to do a SEARCH for threads with AMT and then AMT*  in the title. But SEARCH programs can be maddeningly obtuse and I came up with not a single hit. So I started this thread.

 

Just now though I did a SEARCH for "AMT slot car kit" in the body of posts and I found two threads, one started by Jairus in 1/24 Model Racing and one started by robbovius in Scratchbuilding. Unfortunately this site's program is now for some unaccountable reason completely resisting my efforts to copy and paste the thread addresses. Like I say, maddening!

 

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Posted 09 October 2020 - 12:06 PM

So I switched from Internet Explorer to Firefox and I was able to copy and paste the thread addresses:

 

 

http://slotblog.net/...t-review/page-1

 

http://slotblog.net/...t slot car kit"

 

 

Bloody computers! Now I am capable of learning and being taught anything. But I do have the very reasonable expectation that a machine should work in consistently the same way. No quirks allowed!

 

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Posted 09 October 2020 - 02:31 PM

Stupid idea to not use standard components already in the market place or to copy those components.   No need to re-design the wheel.  Even go to a real slot car track and buy an H&R or Protrack car from somebody and then take it apart and study it.


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Posted 09 October 2020 - 07:29 PM

Never built one, but looked at the kits.

 

I wondered if the people who designed it had any prior slot racing experience.

 

Mike Swiss nailed as such a “wasted opportunity"

 

Now if they had modernized the kits they came out with in the mid-60’s (Hussien, Lola etc.  brass with shaker plates and something other than the 36-d motor they may have had something.



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Posted 09 October 2020 - 09:29 PM

 

Gee Mike sort of like having an interior designer pick the color arraignment for the lanes on your track.

 

Good enough for Lou.....


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Posted 09 October 2020 - 10:43 PM

Steve, lol.

Here's what probably happened with the "new" AMT slot car;

"Pete, what are you doing?"

"Jim, corporate wants me to design a slot car. I did a bunch of research and came up with an awesome design".

"Pete, I'm kind of surprised. I heard through the grapevine they were planning to can a few people, and you were going to be the first to go."

"Thanks for the heads up, Jim. I'll talk to you later. I have some modifications to do".
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Posted 10 October 2020 - 08:35 AM

Could be a repeat of the 60's.     A guy meets a friend at church or the local bar.   He says " where you working now Dave"?   Dave says, " I was selling shoes at Sears last week, this week I am a slot car designer".   " I responded to an ad in the paper, not knowing what a slot car was and turned out the guy hiring me, knew less about than I did.".   

 

The AMT designer could have been operating a roadside taco stand in Mexico City before he became a slot car designer.


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Posted 11 October 2020 - 05:47 PM

I bought one on clearance.

 

For commercial track racing, basically what you can do is keep the body and throw everything else away. Put a ProTrack 612 hardbody chassis under the body.

 

I suppose you could run them "as is" on Carrera home-set track but Carrera "Exclusiv" is 18v if I remember correctly. If memory serves, the first series had plastic wheels while the second series had aluminum wheels (see below sticker found on series two kits).

 

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