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[Bags]

If we look back at where slot cars started from and the progress that has come since then to where it is now. 
 

We can bet there were similar debates every time a new “innovation” came into the hobby to make it better if you will.

 

Slot cars have been updated as technology has advanced from the beginning. All to make the hobby better right? 
 

The brushless technology is here in slot cars now, all that can happen is it either goes or blows. 
 

I think if enough cars get built and start racing that will be the tell all if it’s viable in the hobby or not.

No maintenance and no lottery picks seems like a good start to me. Let’s see what happens next.

[gatormark]

Terry we do race. We have two series we race here with good participation in flexi and the indy class. And we know how inconsistent these motors are

[Samiam]

Everybody knows that rewound and blueprinted motors have NEVER been an issue with the perfected brush motors we've raced. The last 60 years of slot racing with brushed motors has been spot free and flawless.  I've never heard any issues whatsoever with any of the brushed motors used in slot car racing. It has been a perfect smooth road for all the sanctioning bodies throughout the years. We should expect the same perfect, unblemished journey for this emerging technology. Why would anyone ask for anything other than perfection. 

[Hot Slots]

Gatormark, you don't race anyway.

Damn Terry, SAVAGE

[gatormark]

Terry I invite you to come to AP and race with us rookies. We generally have 8 to 12 guys ,we race indy and JK LMP. Branden and Josh have raced here. A guy with your 30 plus yrs racing should do really well. Hope to see ya.

[Alchemist]

The photos of the ESC parts that Mike Low posted looks like the digital slot car stuff!

 

Hmmmmm,  I'm wondering if it's possible to adapt it for brushless motor use?!

 

 

 

 

Here's a Carrera ESC Decoder:

 

[stoo23]

I'm wondering if it's possible to adapt it for brushless motor use

 

Not sure, but there has been a discussion regarding the same thing recently over on the UK Brushless Facebook page.

See here: https://www.facebook...308254371195488

 

You will need to Scroll down a bit to see the actual 'Digital' discussion but you may also find the other stuff interesting

 

cheers

[Alchemist]

Hi Stewart,

 

Thank you for the link!

 

Ernie

[stoo23]

Further to those Digital discussions, the 2 x factors worthy of consideration are both current draw/requirements of the Motor and ESC and PWM/Controller Frequency.

 

Depending on Car style and Scale and desired size of track and gearing etc, the current draw may Not truly be an issue, as you may Not be selecting or using an OTT kv of Motor but the variances of the Digital Chip  and ESC frequency may cause issues/problems, especially if you add in a Digital PWM controller.

 

All somewhat difficult to know really, until further info' and testing has been done,.. or you 'bite the bullet' and give it a try

[Dave_12]

I recently tested a bushless motor in a flexi. It had no brakes!!!

[jimht]

Not usually a problem.
 
Controller? Gear ratio? Ecom? Your result may have nothing to do with the motor.

[bbr]

What controller?

 

Resistor type brake should be OK.

 

Any controller with electronic brake may have problem depending on how much power it can handle - because brushless motor will create more power when braking. If there's a ployfuse, it may have popped open.

[Tim Neja]

Brushless is simply a "new technology" that should be explored on it's own merits.  No reason to completely replace the brushed motors--simply another class of racing.  

I've had a lot of experience with brushless in 1/12 and 1/10 R/C racing.  The motors and ESC's are NO MORE consistent than their brushed counterparts.  There's STILL going to be variation in the performance!!  What brushless DOES do is provide less expensive motors that will last MUCH longer than the brushed ones.  The ESC's need to be made as to "lock out" any changes or tinkering with their performance to make racing equal.  And a "spec" motor decided on for the class's one wants to race.  The "Euro" rage started in their "Open" class's because they are exactly that--OPEN as far as to the motors etc.  

Mike Low posted the most popular and easy to get ESC's and motors available at the moment.  Lot's of new things will be coming soon.

It's ALL GOOD---if it can help racing continue to thrive and maybe even grow again.  A lot to learn once again!