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[Martin]

Thanks for looking Mark. I do not want to derail your project, But my body has no 1/4 lights at the A pillar and no windshield wipers.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Here is my interpretation if they did it in 1/25 scale.

 

 

AMT model kit body mounted on a K&B chassis.

 

Super Challenger motor.

 

Custom mixed yellow paint, foil and detail paint.

 

Original kit hub caps detailed and modified to fit.

 

MPC driver and  styrene interior plate.

 

Car actually runs great on the track.

 

I did it my way 

 

 

[Mark Onofri]

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[Mark Onofri]

Thanks Dave, for some reason I just got your post on this forum.
And,Mr.Wolf, nice vair. The Buick V-8 although, only a anemic 215? HP is still 35HP more than a 180hp turbo. That, combined with the weight difference is a winner!
All of my vair interest is rooted in the Genie. A subject Martin is intimately familiar with.

[Dave Crevie]

All of my vair interest is rooted in the Genie. A subject Martin is intimately familiar with.

 

Ah, but did he put a Corvair engine in a Cushman golf cart? I did, for a charity golf cart race connected with the Chicago Historic Races. And my Genie originally was built with a Corvair engine. But by the time I got it, it was just a pile of parts. No engine, and nothing behind the cockpit area. Back in the "good ol' days" there were Beetles and dune buggies running all over with Corvair motors in them. 

 

Martin is a good guy to know. He has a wide scope of experience. 

[Mark Onofri]

LMFAO! My father had a Cushman gc. We used to play rat patrol on it. A friend of mine finally got it to run in the mid90's. It had a funky looped steering tether?. The best part was the variable drive pulley. Well, with the tyers pumped up to @45+++ psi ..... what a rocket. If it had a seatbelt, I'm not sure if I would have used it. Standing up with it full throttle.... Ahhh, my misspent youth

[Mark Onofri]

Mr Wolf is right about the plastic being rubbery. When they shot this body, the mold must not have been up to temperature. It's got a lot of imperfections in it. And whatever glue whomever used to repair it,is 100x stronger than anything I've used.
More later, I think.

[Mark Onofri]

Some things just aren't meant to be.

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[Dave Crevie]

LMFAO! My father had a Cushman gc. We used to play rat patrol on it. A friend of mine finally got it to run in the mid90's. It had a funky looped steering tether?. The best part was the variable drive pulley. Well, with the tyers pumped up to @45+++ psi ..... what a rocket. If it had a seatbelt, I'm not sure if I would have used it. Standing up with it full throttle.... Ahhh, my misspent youth

 

Not misspent if you had fun.

 

There wasn't much Cushman left on my cart, other than maybe the body panels. Made my own frame from 4130 tubing. Used Sprite steering, complete with steering wheel and column. Designed and built my own control arms for both the front and rear suspension. Built the motor with mostly Crown and EMPI parts, with two Weber 40 IDA2Bs with the stacks coming through on either side of the seat. 12 inch Mamba front wheels, 13 inch Ansen Sprints in the rear. Motorcycle disc brakes in the front, Sprite disc brakes on the rear. The gist of the event was that you would rent a cart from the track, (R/A). But I asked the organizer two questions; What are the rules, and can I bring my own cart. He answered "no rules, and yes, you can bring your own cart". A mistake, I'm sure, considering some of the wild entries that showed up. Powered by a variety of engines, mostly nitro go-kart motors. But one guy went way overhead. A Porsche 911 powered cart with a body that looked very much like a scaled down 910. This event kicked off a series of similar ones intended to bring money to the local Children's Hospital Fund. The next year was powered bedsteads, followed by powered outhouses. I think they did this for at least five years, but I only participated the one time. Sold the contraption at the Vintage races that weekend to someone who piled enough money in front of me that I would let him take it home. Never got a picture of it, but I know they exist. Considering the number of people who took pictures of it.       

[Dave Crevie]

Mark; Any instructions with that Ferrari kit, or indication on the box what series that car is? Maybe a Fantuzzi bodied 212 Inter? The grill tends to look Fantuzzi or Vignale speciale carrozzeria. Just curious.  

[Mark Onofri]

In hindsight, it would have made more sense to remove the paint and stripes first. But, I was thinking about the way it would look in a picture.
I've had a air eraser for a while now and, this seemed like the perfect time to try it. Also, I aquired some Testors dried paint solvent. Unbenonced to me,it is NOT the same as Testors dried paint REMOVER!!!
On the left is the solvent,on the right is the eraser w/baking soda. The solvent fell short of my expectations. The eraser however, although almost as nasty as the real thing, was far easier and faster. If you enlarge the picture, take a look at the Corvair script.
The stripes..... well I won't say what I'm thinking about them. Why is it that whenever I use glue or stripes, they fall apart/off within what seems to be hours?
PS: you really need a dust hood or a vacuum system for the eraser. I gave her a alternate truth: it's carpet freshener 🤫

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[Mark Onofri]

Here's what it came with. The grill looks almost like a OSCA.

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[Mark Onofri]

Sometimes, it's a good thing when you have to spit on it to get it in. This is one of those times.

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[Mark Onofri]

With the paint mostly blasted away, you have a clearer view. That damn split (in previous picture) needed more attention.

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[Dave Crevie]

Couldn't find anything on a Ferrari Sportster in Fitzgerald and Merit, or any other Ferrari book that was readily at hand right now. Many models had SP after the numeric designation, but that stands for spyder. Closest car I could find was the 340 America Vignale Spyder, of which 22 were made, and each one was different. But none had that squarish grill, theirs were all large ovals. And didn't have the chrome surround. There also were Berlinettas, and one did have the chrome surround, along with a lot of other chrome "bling" added for a special customer. So the Aurora model is not accurate, nor is the facts sheet. Not surprising. And not important. Just curious as to what it was supposed to be.

 

anyway, I'll be interested to see what you do with that body.

[Mark Onofri]

The Ferrari? If you've ever tried to assemble one of these old Aurora kits, you'd know what a b**"* the four (4) piece body is. Having the painting experience that you have, you know that
" The proof is in the flat black "
After much thought, it's getting a coat of maroon and maybe a two-tone maroon and black.
As for the vair,
The real car was supposed to be a deep metallic Chrysler Imperial grey. I spent the princely sum of $3,200(in today's $)on a paint job. What I got was a car with more runs than her stockings (after). So, the son of a took a da to it ,skimed it with redlead and told me" get it out of here". When she saw it,at least she didn't lol! But, she was GONE!
I'm going to get this as close to what I had envisioned then

[Mark Onofri]

Dave, there about as many varieties of the Ferrari as there is Italian coach builders. Try googling:
Ferrari 212. I guess it's like pasta. DYK that, every pasta shape (in Italy)is supposed to resemble a part of the female anatomy? Ex: tortellini are supposed to resemble the navel. When I told a cousin,who is a high ranking marine this,he responded:
What do you suppose a rigatoni is supposed to resemble? Thank God for the Marines.

[Mark Onofri]

Blasted and blaster.
The grey spots are filler. The passenger side lower corner of the front fender is not fully molded. Kinda like the rot the real ones get in the same spot. Also,on the driver's side, the Corsa script is almost non-existent. I'll post a few more pics later. I'm either going to have to remove both or, make a mold like Martin would do.

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[Mark Onofri]

Ok, now comes the dilama.
1) the first two (2) pictures show the script or, lack of
2) my favorite part of the 65-69 vair is the concaved rear. This, obviously,has none. Also,if you enlarge the picture, you can see the split in the upper right corner. The fit and finish is far from fitting. Whomever repaired it, used enough glue for a few more models. Anyone know of a glue remover/softener?
I can continue with the rest of the build but, I'll come to a screeching halt shortly.

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[Mark Onofri]

Sometimes you just get lucky. The stuff that didn't work on paint, turned the glue back to liquid! It figures, Model Master is no longer making it.
Forward!!!

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[Bill from NH]

You can't make silk from a sow's ear. Sounds more fit for a resin casting project.

[Mark Onofri]

But Billnh, it's like putting lipstick on a 🐖. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
I was thinking the same thing about the resin casting but, this body has more waves in it than the North Atlantic in February. I'll be happy to just get a decent coat of paint on it.
The mold must have been ice cold when they shot it.
Are you referring to the script or, the rear valance or, both for resin casting?

[Bill from NH]

Whatever is needed, any of it, all of it. But you would need a good mold first. I thought about getting into resin casting, but then I'm too old to get into a new hobby.

[Mark Onofri]

Never too old. Well, except for entering a triathlon, gymnastics or Olympic figure skating.

[Dave Crevie]

Mark wrote;

Dave, there about as many varieties of the Ferrari as there is Italian coach builders. Try googling:
Ferrari 212. I guess it's like pasta. DYK that, every pasta shape (in Italy)is supposed to resemble a part of the female anatomy? Ex: tortellini are supposed to resemble the navel. When I told a cousin,who is a high ranking marine this,he responded:
What do you suppose a rigatoni is supposed to resemble? Thank God for the Marines.

 

 

I don't have to Google anything. I have enough Ferrari books to paper the Taj Mahal. I don't necessarily trust info I see on the net. The photos are great, though. Certainly better quality than scanning from a book. Plus, I've worked on a couple dozen vintage Ferrari's in my lifetime, so I have a little knowledge about them.

 

As to pasta, tortellini looks to me more like a different part of the female body than the navel. And how about Farfale and Fusilli? What part of the female form do those resemble?