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[Mark Onofri]

Half of an 888... sorta.

 

 

 

 

[Bill from NH]

This chassis has one of the REHCO "Dubro" motor brackets that were probably made by Associated. It fits 16D, C-cans, & the small Hemi motors. Others if you want to drill your own screw holes. This was probably somebody's scratchbuilt, but hard to tell from the resoldering. Do you know anything of its history?

[Mark Onofri]

Yes, yes I do. I started it on the 18th of August.
The bracket is a JK. The drop arm is a Rego.(?)
The soldering is a little rough because I didn't have a game plan. It came about because I couldn't figure out how to get three (3) four (4") inch pieces of 0.047 wire from a 12" piece piece.
{Really}.

[Bill from NH]

Those bracket bearing holes are for 1/4" bushings, that makes it a REHCO as those holes on a JK fit 7/32" tubing. Also, this bracket has both vertical & horizontal mounting holes to fit 16D & C-cans, as well as the small Hemi. The JK brackets are made to fit FK (Falcon type) motors only. What motor are you planning to use? You did a pretty nice job building this chassis. You can fix those solder blobs on the rails with the square edge of a file or a homemade scraper made from .063 piano wire that is cut about 45 degrees on one end. I've used both cleaning up silver soldered joints, It may have been a Tony P tip from the '70s. 

 

Sometime, post a clear photo showing how you connected the front of the plumber rails so the pans don't fall off. It's not clear in the photos you posted. One might have shown a hinge tube, another looks they were up-righted to the axle tube.

 

Here's how to get 4 pieces of 4" piano wire from a foot. Clamp one end tight in your vise, grab the other end with you best pair of plumber's pliers & pull like ...

[Mark Onofri]

LMFAO! I corrected it. Three (3) four (4") inch pieces from a twelve (12") inch piece. I am not kidding about that 😶
Even with a pair of snips, two (2) four inch (4") and a three and three quarter inch (3.75") piece.

[Bill from NH]

Cut with a Dremel cutoff disc. Make two cuts & you'll lose less than 1/16 inch.

[Mark Onofri]

One would think that. I won't say who's product it is but, it has a M and a A in the title. Would you like to buy a constanent? We're out of vowels.

[Bill from NH]

Are you saying that you ordered a JK motor bracket & M-A sent you the REHCO? Remember, I speak very little Italian.

[Mark Onofri]

I'm a no say a that. The bracket is from PCH, unless Scott is rebagging them, I'm a gonna say is a JK! The wire was ~11.75".
So, purely by accident, I had a unfinished 1/24 F-1 on the dissecting table and one a ting leada to another.
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[Bill from NH]

Next time you buy piano wire or brass tubing, buy more than you actually need. You never know when it'll come in handy. Call that motor bracket whatever name you want. But it'll never become anything other than the REHCO. Maybe you ordered a JK bracket from PCH but they sent you a similar REHCO because that's what they had in stock. JK was sold again in the past six months or so. Who know what they now actually have for products. I don't. In the future, Slot Car Corner in CT has some brackets more similar looking to JK's than this REHCO.

[Dave Crevie]

Regardless of where it came from, if Mark is trying to replicate a car from the period, and is going to use 1/8th inch O.D. axles, then he is going to need 1/4 inch I.D. axle holes for the 1/4 inch O. D. ball bearings, and that is the right bracket.(assuming those holes are indeed 1/4 inch I.D. ) Back in the day, ball bearings, and most oilite bushings, came in 1/4 inch, 5/16ths inch, and 3/8ths inch O. D.s. 

 

Depending on where you buy your piano wire, the pieces are usually sold as "random lengths". That means the piece is not necessarily exactly 12 inches long. It's due to the machine that is used to shear the wire to length. I have found that the wire I bought from Mike Swiss at Chicagoland is mostly a tick over 12 inches long. Not much, but enough to allow a few cuts with a thin Dremel cut-off disc. Small diameter brass tubing will be closer to the exact length, since it is cut with a saw with more accurate back gageing.     

[Bill Breck]

I'm a no say a that. The bracket is from PCH, unless Scott is rebagging them, I'm a gonna say is a JK! The wire was ~11.75".
So, purely by accident, I had a unfinished 1/24 F-1 on the dissecting table and one a ting leada to another.
💡
🙄

 

Maddone, that Scott he's a bigga chuch some a time. 

 

Seriously though, the wire that Mark has is often slightly bent at the ends. It may also be shorter than 12" - I don't know for sure, because I've never measured it.

 

I have the same wire and I pretty much had to throw away an inch or so of each end. It would be great if we could still get the nice plated wire from Mike Swiss, but that's been unavailable for a while. 

[Eddie Fleming]

What would be nice is if we could get the three foot lengths of wire packaged in a tube like it was way back in ancient history.

[Bill from NH]

3' wire is still available, just ask your local track owner to order a tube of what you want. I have 3' tubes of .047,.055, & .063. Other sizes in 3' I picked up as needed at the local Ace Hardware or at a train shop. I know of one hobby shop, still in this area. that sells 3' lengths of piano wire, brass tubing, & carbon fiber rods. The local Hobby Lobby sells K&S products in 1-foot lengths because it's easier for them to handle. There is a company on the net that sells 3' lengths, but the name escapes me at the moment.

 

Eddie, you mentioned ancient history. I recall when all K&S piano wire in the .032--.063 range sold for a nickel a foot & it was plated too. When Sullivan sold piano wire, it was plated also..

[Dave Crevie]

You can get 3 foot lengths from several suppliers through Amazon.

 

 

 

I just showed a few of the sizes most used by us. Any size sold by K &  S is available. And when you put in an order, pick up one of these gizmos as well. Real handy if you have a box full of unknown drop-offs. Much easier than fumbling around with a micrometer or calipers. 

 

 

 

A word of warning; Amazon sells from a lot of third-party suppliers. They tend to package their wire and tube in flimsy cardboard boxes. And since they also use UPS, chances are your wire is going to come bent. K & S ships their bendables in plastic tubes, which are well packed inside heavy duty cardboard tubes. So if it sounds like 20 lengths of .055 wire for $9.00 is a better deal than 4 lengths for the same price, think of how many hours you will spend straightening the wire, and how much you will throw away that you can't straighten.  

 

As to the last little bit of the length of wire being bent, chances are it was cut in a hand shear that doesn't have the hold down foot like a full sized shear has. 

[Mark Onofri]

LMFAO, Bill B,dat did not hurt my ear da w

[Mark Onofri]

LMFAO, Bill B,dat did not hurt my ear da way you sed dat.
Utter Bill, I'm a work on a my English.
Dave, I bought one of those 20+ years ago and also, the recktangled one for drill/wire diameter.
I'll send more pics soon. Debating on whether to race tonight or not.
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[Mark Onofri]

In the first picture, yes Dave,1/4" BB's.
Second photo,rear bite bar& down stop (you might be able to see the upstop)
Third & fourth photo, plumber hinges & down stop.
Need to get a axel ,5-40 x what ever metric size a Huddy takes. A POS harbour freight drill press shakes more than a bed that takes quarters.

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[Dave Crevie]

Race as long as you can. Every minute if possible. There will come a day when you can't anymore.

[Mark Onofri]

The object is to get it running then, lipstick and ,eyeliner.,,(no emoji for green eyeliner){or any emojis for that matter}

[Eddie Fleming]

I bought a pack of three foot wire from amazon a few months ago. after FedEx moved it around the country for a month it is difficult to find a usable length wire in the pack. 

 

It was not packed in a tube and had no protection except the card board they had folded over the pack of wire.

 

Other than that the product and service were excellent.

 

Just a cautionary tell. Choose your vendor with care.

[Mark Onofri]

For no reason whatsoever,, the first picture is what the motor bracket was in.
The second photo is the PCH listing.
Bare in mind that, I purchased a bunch of dem at the beginning of the red death quarantine. Anyting could have happened betwixed now and den.

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[Mark Onofri]

I forgot to state that the body is a Lancer. Supposedly factory painted.

[Bill from NH]

Thanks for the clearer photos of your front. That's what i wanted to see. You could true those rear the old fashion way many of the 1/32 racers still use. That is to spin the car mounted tires on a stationary flat piece of sandpaper. That would save you from getting a special Hudy arbor for a one-time use, if they are still available.

 

If you have access to an old Cobra or similar JK truer, both use a straight 1/8" shaft with one end turned down for 3/32" tires. An ordinary threaded axle could be used to replace the shafts.

[Bill Breck]

You can get 3 foot lengths from several suppliers through Amazon.

 

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I just showed a few of the sizes most used by us. Any size sold by K &  S is available. And when you put in an order, pick up one of these gizmos as well. Real handy if you have a box full of unknown drop-offs. Much easier than fumbling around with a micrometer or calipers. 

 

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A word of warning; Amazon sells from a lot of third-party suppliers. They tend to package their wire and tube in flimsy cardboard boxes. And since they also use UPS, chances are your wire is going to come bent. K & S ships their bendables in plastic tubes, which are well packed inside heavy duty cardboard tubes. So if it sounds like 20 lengths of .055 wire for $9.00 is a better deal than 4 lengths for the same price, think of how many hours you will spend straightening the wire, and how much you will throw away that you can't straighten.  

 

As to the last little bit of the length of wire being bent, chances are it was cut in a hand shear that doesn't have the hold down foot like a full sized shear has. 

 

There are 2 hobby stores in the Syracuse area that carry the 3' K&S wire. There are also several Ace Hardware stores that will presumably have the same wire. I'd definitely buy from one of those sources rather than taking a chance on Amazon.