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#26 Noose

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 10:51 AM

That winning car was a jet and tracked like it was on rails. It weighed in at 117 grams. In case anyone didn't notice yet, yes, it's a JK Spec type frame. Both Sano Dave and Howie ran them.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:00 AM

Howie told me that he and Dave weren't originally planning on running the JK Spec chassis but changed their minds when they found out how well they handled.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:17 AM

They're both Spec legal cars except for axle ball bearings in at least one of them.

Dave used the same chassis for his second place GT-C car.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:20 AM

Dave's stuff was very good indeed.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:26 AM

Sorry, but I just HAVE to do things like this... my practice bodies for Da Sano II.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:27 AM

Tex,

Are those one tab or two tab bodies?... LOL!!!

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:32 AM

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:33 AM

Dave's stuff was very good indeed.

Dennis Samson had a car that ran 33 laps and was a force in the Flat track, Can-Am race. I'm pretty sure his was also a JK Spec race legal car.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:39 AM

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Mr. Tex himself. This shot pretty shows the uniqueness to the King track's deadman. Only midgets or racers under 50 are allowed to marshall it. LOL...

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:48 AM

Dennis Samson had a car that ran 33 laps and was a force in the Flat track, Can-Am race. I'm pretty sure his was also a JK Spec race legal car.

Yup... it was.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:50 AM

Thanks for the reference, Mike - I'm not sure I belong in a discussion about Sano Dave and Howie!

Yes - it was the same car I ran in the Spec class Friday night, just different tires, that's all.

None of my own cars were quite as good, and I was way too tired most of the time to try getting them better. I had a good combination of speed and handling in the Spec car, so I just went with that for the Can-Am race, too.
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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:55 AM

I think if you would have made it in earlier to practice, you could have podiumed in Can-Am with that car.

FWIW, Ralph Thorne used Allan Reeder's JK Spec car to finish fourth in the Shoot-Out.
He had never been on a flat track before Thursday.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 12:08 PM

I want to thank Ralph for making my prognostications about his driving skills look accurate.

I told everyone who would listen to me (both of them...) that Ralphy's a heck of a slot racer and for once, it looks like I knew what I was talking about, eh?

He was even able to help the grizzled old veteran, Jay Guard, with tire choice for one class and I know Jay was very appreciative.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 01:58 PM

For all the post the last couple of years about chassis movement, hinge movement and fit, a chassis with hardly any movement won.

Same for the motors, right till the time the Sano started before the thread was closed. Then a Falcon won the biggest race. :rolleyes:
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Posted 28 October 2008 - 02:03 PM

Falcons won on the flat track, Pro Slots on the King.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 09:13 AM

For those of us that struggled with handling at Sano II, I would like to see more pictures of Sano Dave's spec car.

And yes, I know his talent, not the car, was responsible for his win... but I would still like to see it.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 09:25 AM

Dave,

And you will see more pics as soon as I can get them tweaked, organized and uploaded. In just car pictures alone, I took over 500 images and it takes a little time to process such a volume.

Just as with the first Sano, every car that raced will be shown in top and bottom shots.

I had hoped to make more headway on posting pics last night, but Slotblog's post SQL database got corrupted about 4:30 PM or so and it took until about 8:00 or so to get it repaired.

And I have a regular commitment on Thursday nights that will keep me from getting much done tonight. As soon as I get home Friday after work, I'll be working on posting pics and will be devoting Saturday and Sunday to finishing them up.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 09:30 AM

Next time he's in, I'll see if I can get pics of it with the body off. (I assume you've seen the bottom view in post #25.)

It is very simple and seems to work real well on either track. Along with his 10 lap win on the Flat track, he was second, one lap behind Jay Kisling, on the King.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 10:42 AM


Great job on the race Mike, you'll hook me yet. :laugh2:

Built one yesterday for grins after I saw the pics. Works & simple, too, to say the least.
Certainly validates the flex chassis designs Paul Sterrett has been running in D3 since the racing started in Cali.

Very reminiscent of the wire shuttle designs we were running in Int15 in the 80's & works very well, although the length is a little excessive for the big turns on my Engleman.
Don't know about the built in side dams on that body, looks like it might present the same problems as the Champion Shadow after it got more air control added... just how dominant was it in the races & is there anything else like it?

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 10:46 AM

O/S also has a long Ti22 that works very, very well.

The O/S Ferrari 612 is also excellent and is a tiny bit shorter.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 11:40 AM

Next time he's in, I'll see if I can get pics of it with the body off. (I assume you've seen the bottom view in post #25.)

I posted some pics of the top and bottom, just not sure where. :)

I do remember Cheater and I taking off the body for him to get a pic of the top of the chassis. I'm sure Greg will post when he finds it.
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 08:39 PM

O/S also has a long Ti22 that works very, very well.

The O/S Ferrari 612 is also excellent and is a tiny bit shorter.

Jim...

The part numbers are...

Long Ti22 OS-408L

Ferrari 612 OS-414

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 09:06 PM

Very reminiscent of the wire shuttle designs we were running in Int15 in the 80's & works very well

You are correct, sir. It does remind me quite a bit of the Jay Horn '89 Nats G27 winner.
I'm pretty sure Jay and Dan Green said their chassis were inspired by Gary Pearce from NY, who I'm pretty sure is currently racing ISRA style cars at Lou Pirro's and elsewhere.

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