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[TSR]

Scott has been loading me with work and I am losing control...
I will try simply to build one since I have a body for it.

[Dave Larsen]

It's been a long, long time....


Since I've been on this one Sheeet...... "DC-65X" was so kind to send me his chassis about a year ago to copy I put it on the shelf above the work bench along with a few other "MUST FINISH" rides. Like the others, I kinda forgot about it That was until Rick sent me a P/M saying that he would like to have his chassis back and rightfully so So a few week's ago before I mailed it back to him, I did at least bend the all of the rails and took the needed measurements and traced it out on a piece of paper along with a few pictures of the replica Flying "A" F/1 chassis. I want to thank Rick for his kindness One of these days Rick, I will get it done.....



Thank you Rick!

Regards,

Dave

[Steve Deiters]

Seeing the headline of F-1 anglewinder got me thinking. I seem to remember that the Dynamic "Handling Bodies" line and appears MAC also had developed "wide" bodies for anglewinder F-1 cars in the very late '60's and early '70's. There were only a few models (the Matra was one of them) they sold OK but not outstanding, and just never seemed to gain any traction as a class or racing movement. Keep in mind that this was an era when Can-Am and some GT coupe was the only major racing going on. While open wheel racing was popular in the early '60's by the late '60's it was on its way out if not gone completely.

Any other info on the "wide body" F-1 bodies of the era and maybe where the body molds wound up would be interesting to know. Rebops available somewhere?

[Ron Hershman]

Here ya go............

[tonyp]

God I remember that car, it was an STP turbine right?

[TSR]

Seeing the headline of F-1 anglewinder got me thinking. I seem to remember that the Dynamic "Handling Bodies" line and appears MAC also had developed "wide" bodies for anglewinder F-1 cars in the very late '60's and early '70's.

Steve,
There were two times when extra-wide F1 bodies and cars were attempted, and both failed.
In 1969, a national USRA race was organized in California using for the first time, angle-winder chassis featuring D-size Mura and Champion motors. Bodies were supplied by Russkit, Dynamic and Lancer, all made from widened existing models. The race was won by Doug "Inline" Henline, but shortly after that race, anglewinder F1 cars were booted out as most found them simply visually repulsive. The NCC rules banned them as only inline F1 cars were allowed, with a maximum width of 2-1/8".

A second attempt took place in 1972, when interest in an F1 class arose agian, and the smaller C-can motors could allow anglewinder cars to be used. MAC and Dynamic produced bodies, of a MATRA and a Tyrell. A single race took place at Circle T raceway in North Hollywood or Burbank (can't recall this minute) and was relatively well supported, but interest waned again and that was it.
Dave Larsen is talking about the car that set pole for that race.

Both times, other F1 anglewinder races were organized and run in various places in the country but it never picked up.

[Steve Deiters]

Tyrell... I knew there was a second one. When I was in the wholesale end of the business these two bodies sold steady,but no where remotely close to the Can Am cars at the time Thanks for the background info.

SD

[Prof. Fate]

Hi

There was ONE race here in Utah at a place called "Slot Spot" in a Salt Lake suburb. The track was holding its annual Indy 500 in both 1/24 and 1/32. I won both races. My anglewinder from that 69 race is still around, I run it all the time. It survived better than the its contemporary Sports chassis(though it was just a de-panned chassis) because it was only run the one time and the pans had "migrated" to another car!

About 15 or so years ago, someone came up with full width "indy" bodies to fit full flexi chassis as well as, of course the line of bodies done to fit the JK "Indy" chassis.

Fate

[TSR]

Tyrell... I knew there was a second one.

Steve, we have one at the LASCM. That is some U-G-L-Y lump!

It was also one the the very first totally unrecognizable pro-racing slot car bodies ever produced. It went downhill from there...

[TSR]

Since there are several Morrissey-style angle-winder F1 chassis using the bloated, pregnant bodies issued at the time (1969) in the Bob Emott chassis collection, and since these were apparently raced in anger, including by our own, the Noosester, we need to know a bit more about where and when a big race for these was held in the upper-right corner of the USA. Roberto? Noose? Tony? Sandy?

[Ron Hershman]

The pic I posted was from the Champaign Dyna-Rewind Invitational held in either 67 or 68 April 20 in Elgin, Il. Now publication date nor no mention of the year this race happened. C-U Model Raceway is where it happened.

John Nelson was the winner.

[JohnnySlotcar]

The Dyna rewind race was at C-U Model Raceways in Champaign, Il. I was there, raced and even have my complete car along with a plaque from this race in April 1968. I beleive results were in the may or june car Model magazine!

[Ron Hershman]

April 20, 1968..... History in the making....... The First? F-1 Anglewinder shows up at a race and Hustings Can-Am anglewinder makes the scene winning for the first time.

It proves Hustings built the first "winning" Can-Am anglewinder..... NOT the first anglewinder as some think.

[don.siegel]

Slight problem on the dates.

The May 68 issue of CM covers the first Dyna Rewind Invitational at Tom Thumb's in North Royalton, Ohio - won by Lyle Jenkins and all cars were conventional inlines, with hinged body mounts looks like. Jan Limpach won the Concours with a Chappy 2F with working flipper.

June 68 had the second invitational at Brooklyn Raceways in Cleveland, won by Carter Reed, also inline.

July 68 was the Dyna Stocker race at Parma, won by a 36D-powered car!

Ah, at last some F1 anglewinders: August 68 issue ahs coverage of second Car Model bash in NY, won by Sandy Gross with anglewinder GP car, Hamilton RAceway in Brooklyn on 300 ft Indy track. But Jerry Brady was second with an I/L.

The Champaign race won by John Nelson on April 20 at C-U Raceways was in the September 68 issue - but that seems to have been mostly inlines, because there's one photo of a "semi-sidewinder" design by Dee Blakenship of Indiapolis that caused a stir - no other mention of anglewinders...



Don

[Ron Hershman]

Slight problem on the dates.

Is there????

We have John Austin who WAS at the April 20, 1968 where the angle winder F-1 was ran come forward confirming what has been missing for quite sometime and we also know Gene's car won on April 20, 1968.

Magazine publishing dates mean nothing compared to the actual dates the races were ran on.

[don.siegel]

I know Ron, I was referring to the magazine dates given as the May or June issue, when it was actually in September...

Does John remember other anglewinders at that race? The article isn't very exact about that, and there's only the one photo of a chassis, the anglewinder by another driver. It mostly talks about a new qualifying system based on "mph", and the fact that everybody used silicone-coated spongies...

Don

[Steve Deiters]

Steve, we have one at the LASCM. That is some U-G-L-Y lump!

It was also one the the very first totally unrecognizable pro-racing slot car bodies ever produced. It went downhill from there...

If you could post photos of those two bodies if you get a chance on this string I'd appreciate it. I remember them, but not that well other than the fact that they certianly weren't...how shall I say it..."not to scale". As I recall they were very "wedgy". Did Mac have one or some also?

As I mentioned before they sold at a steady very slow pace, but probaly never at the volume that was sufficent to probably recover the cost of the molds let alone make it a viable ongoing product.

[dc-65x]

Hi Steve,

Here's my Dynamic Tyrrell. It's painted by Jairus Watson like an original racer photographed in the early 1970's. They had a class to race these cars in the San Francisco Bay Area with NCC20 C-can motors.



I like the car myself. I don't think they look any worse than other aero bodies of the era. But that's just my humble opinion .

[TSR]

Rick,
that's the one! The ultimate door stop. Yours looks really good...
Former pro racer Bob Bernhard designed the bodies for Dynamic, called "Aero-Dynamic" in mid 1972, and the "Tyrell" was one of the 4 bodies issued.

[MrWeiler]

Yeah Oscar, happy Slotyiddish Day!

Dokk, I know you like motorcycles--I'll get you a Yamaha for your head. Don't you feel that you have a split personality celebrating slotyiddish day while also acting as the designated D3 tech slot-NAZI?

(my ex is Jewish and she would spit her drink whenever I called a Yamulke a Yamaha..)

[zettler]

The Dyna rewind race was at C-U Model Raceways in Champaign, Il. I was there, raced and even have my complete car along with a plaque from this race in April 1968. I beleive results were in the may or june car Model magazine!

Wow! Even more nostalgia!

I not only raced there but also worked there in the 1960s.

Bob Zettler (aka Jet Zett, bestowed upon me by Ben Jr.)
Bob Zettler

[zettler]

Not sure if I can post pictures yet but give it a try. The following is the top tray of my old slot box - I still have.

https://photos.app.g...YU7pLstiJ2mK5CA

[zettler]

Well, it looks like I can at least post links to my photos, so here is another showing chassis, parts, controller, etc.

https://photos.app.g...abrYhczumyRnft9

[zettler]

And my slot box itself!

https://photos.app.g...57ebKZ5rQdTXfY8

[Isaac S.]

Very cool Bob. Love the Russkit Elfin body and the Certus motor.