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[Ron Hershman]

No one in particular was suspected of anything/tampering. We all know how easy it is to take those foil seals off the motors and put them back on.

While the IRRA requires the motor refurbers to use the "white" type seal, it is only fitting to have the manufacturer of the motor do so as well. We told the refurbers they HAD to use the "white" type seal so it's only fitting that the manufacturer do the same as well. So "what's good for the goose is good for the gander", so to speak.

We contacted P-S about going to the "white" type seal and he did. Now we can rest assured that all motors with those "white" type seals are even more tamper-resistant than motors with foil seals.

So once P-S switched over to the "white" type seal... we discussed a date as to which the foil seals would no longer be required a few months ago. Last week, we, the IRRA BOD, revisited the subject and came up with the date that motors are to be required to have the "white" type seals in place and no more foil type seals allowed.

[Ron Hershman]

A $3 balancing job and get rid of that "piss" they call oil... there would have been no need for bearings and drill blanks. But that's not the issue here.

If and when they do... they will get caught and according to the rules..."will be banned from IRRA competition".

[Noose]

Exactly. So if they think it's worth it, go for it.

[Ron Hershman]

I guess some who feel the need to cheat or save themselves $10 will spend the couple of hundred bucks to have seals made to cover their cheating tracks.

Oh well... they will be caught and then banned. Then they will have spent lots of money on seals, motors, and equipment that they can shove around in their front lawns.

[Ron Hershman]

I told you I wasn't gonna post to this anymore, and the only reason I did was Ron directed a statement toward me. He always could have contacted me privately.

Mark, you dragged me into this with your post #10... I simply quoted you and gave you a response (my post #24) to your post involving me.

Then you addressed me directly with your post #27. I replied to you in my post #28.

Maybe you should have PM'd me directly to begin with, versus dragging me into it.... back in your post #10???

I have nothing to hide in any of my posts and replies... Do you??? Is there a need to take it to PM if the discussion is out and in the open???

Another thing for those to think about when "counterfeiting" any of the approved seals. This is counterfeiting and also is a infringement of Trademark and Copyright Laws. This would cause someone significant grief that would think about making their own seals. This would be in violation of many Federal laws and way more costly to those who may choose to do so than a few bucks to make a counterfeit seal.

[Noose]

OK, this is enough and I am going to close this thread. Retro East runs by IRRA rules, I posted what the new rule is for our guys to ensure compliance and there has been a very thorough explanation of why the seals are what they are. Cheating in any form is not good for anyone or the hobby. Ron is correct in his statement about trademark laws.