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[stevefzr]

The "new" 16D with oval hole was supposed to be used in the new series, and I actually had a factory prototype of the Competition Asp fitted with one. But they were never sold by Classic to the public, and in fact 3 dozens or so of Mabuchi foam motor boxes with 24 motors each were sold to REH in 1968 with everything else. REH sold them separately until they were gone. VERY FEW received the "Classic" shield.

I can account for four of the very few that received the shield.  I just bought an ebay lot that had some uncut Cuc bodies, but I really bought it because there were several of the classic versions of the FT16DBB.  The motor in the cuc, one of the two in the dual motor scratch chassis and one of the loose motors have the Classic shield on.  You can see the shield shaped glue stain on one of the other cans where a shield fell off.  The one on the motor in the dual motor chassis is also close to falling off.  None of my other examples have the shield.
 
 
 
Regards,
 
Steve C

[TSR]

Steve, good show! These were offered to Classic in late 1966,  the actual production of about 100 dozens delivered in January 1967. 
Classic pulled the carpet under the program shortly after the 1967 Chicago Hobby Show, when the unraveling truly began. 
By summer, all the remaining cars and parts were boxed and shipped to REH in a 10-cent to the dollar deal. These motors were part of the deal. 

I think that the rarest Classic motors are their FT16D 1-volt rewound jobs, besides the one showed by Bob Fischer in post # 22, I have only seen a handful.  Tough as nails to find one intact and in its original box. 
 

[Frank The Tank]

Here are some images of Classic motors. The CM160 is 1 volt with polished and balanced arm.

Recently pick up one of these (bottom pic) , what is it, 150?

[SlotStox#53]

That is a hybrid job based on a "Rikoflash Mk2" motor by an electrical & slot car company "Riko" short for Richard Konstam ( think that's how it's spelt)

They rebadged various motors and made their own, this being based on the flash mk2 but it's got a normal endbell. The original had something similar to the Hemi endbell.

[zipper]

It was Richard Kohnstam LTD.

[Bill from NH]

Last night, there were a couple scratchbuilt chassis on ebay, each with a different Riko motor. They might still be there.

[TSR]

Paul, RiKo never manufactured anything and it was not an electrical company. They were strictly a distributor and importer of Japanese toys and toy parts, then plastic model kits through the 1970s and 1980s.
Richard Kohnstam was one of the children of Maurice Kohnstam, a turn of the (20th) century toy manufacturer in Nurnberg, Germany, with a company making tinplate toys by the name of MoKo. In 1936, the Kohnstams were forced to escape the kind and gentle NAZI Jewish extermination proceedings, and they settled in London after all their possessions had been summarily confiscated (it was so convenient and justified of course). The family branched, and one part created the Moko-Lesney toys that you know under the Matchbox name. Richard founded RiKo in 1938 and began dealing with selling toys, importing them rather than manufacturing them. The company was dissolved in 1999.
All the motors seen in the B&W picture are Japanese and Chinese (Hong Kong). All are well known and are from companies clearly identified, from Mabuchi to Marusan and others.