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[Marty Stanley]

When you check the results from the R4/2, you will see Ron Hershman at the top of the pack in GTC, F1 and Can-Am. In my book, that's a "SWEEP".

Can he repeat at the R4/3 or will someone step up and out drive him?

Who will that be?

[Marty Stanley]

Well to answer my own question . . . . NO.

Seems as though Team R-Geo driver Chris Radisch won GTC with James "Merry Muffin" Merriman taking second place.

Ron Hershman did fill out the podium.

Way to go guys!

[Hworth08]

Marty,

Keep a good thought.

They'll tear down the top five since it's a big race.
Ron might win yet??

[Rusty Pinion]

Marty,

Keep a good thought.

They'll tear down the top five since it's a big race.
Ron might win yet??

Gimme a break...... LMAO. They're running HANDOUT falcon motors. LOL

[Hworth08]

Well...maybe the motors have double-secret engravings on the INSIDE of the can that requires a teardown?

Hey, we already know the answer to Marty's question, I'm just trying to add some intrest to the thread!

[Rusty Pinion]

I knew you were joking......it just cracked me up.

[Hworth08]

Well Rusty, I'm glad to read that! I pretty much made up the part about the motors maybe having double-secret engravings on the inside. Now I feel a little better since I've told the truth. Only a little better though because I didn't feel very bad about lying to start with!

[Bill from NH]

Did you ever think that maybe Ron blueprinted all those handout motors yet might have just gotten one of the weaker ones? I read these were Falcons, but I once heard it takes two motors to make one good blueprinted one. One provides the can, the second provides the endbell.

[Pappy]

Bill,

Ron get get one of the weaker one's. It was amazing that he finished third. I wasn't sure his motor would last the whole race.

[Jacob Shiplet]

thats after he smoked 2 in practice, not totaling 30 laps I dont think.I was breakin my motor in and he was standing next to me. I said hows it running, he goes its smokin, I said what? He goes its sitting at the end of the straight smoking. I laughed until I looked, it was smokin alright.

[MantaRay]

Just good clean racin' you get what ya' get..............

[Ron Hershman]

Did you ever think that maybe Ron blueprinted all those handout motors yet might have just gotten one of the weaker ones? I read these were Falcons, but I once heard it takes two motors to make one good blueprinted one. One provides the can, the second provides the endbell.

They were nothing more than production Falcon 7 motors handed out. Nothing was blueprinted or presented as blueprinted.

Bill,

Ron get get one of the weaker one's. It was amazing that he finished third. I wasn't sure his motor would last the whole race.

It was no ball of fire...but it was what it was.... I picked from the same box as the others... it was ok... not the fastest, nor the slowest...... it was ok for about 5 heats then it slowed over the final three. I was happy it didn't "flame out" before the finish and allowed me to get a fine third place.

thats after he smoked 2 in practice, not totaling 30 laps I dont think.I was breakin my motor in and he was standing next to me. I said hows it running, he goes its smokin, I said what? He goes its sitting at the end of the straight smoking. I laughed until I looked, it was smokin alright.

LOL.... I picked two motors for me and two for Rande... I went out with my two cars and the first one was OK.... the second one felt real fast for three laps...then it slung a wire. Mike gave me a replacement and it was no better than my other.

Then I took our Rande's two cars and the same exact thing happened, except I ran the slug wire special till it went up in a ball of flame and smoke in 4 laps.... just to show Jacob. LOL

Just good clean racin' you get what ya' get..............

Yep very clean racing in this class and the other two all weekend long.

[DirtyHairy]

how much practice time were put in on these handout motors??? are you seriously running sooooo much practice that by time the race comes your smoking motors????

[Pappy]

Justin,

At the first R4 I ran my Falcon 7 motor about 5 laps and put it away because it ran good. Teched it in, put it on the track for the race and it just sat there. That's the only thing bad about these motors, they are not reliable.

[Hworth08]

...... it was ok for about 5 heats then it slowed over the final three. I was happy it didn't "flame out" before the finish and

So, you missed a shift in the fifth heat and over-reved the motor. Driver error, not the motor, maybe. The motor probably has a broken valve spring.

[DirtyHairy]

thats just insane.....i have never......never...had a bad falcoooooon.....some might be a tick slower but never one that only went 5 laps......something is not right there....and i for one would be questioning the handout process is your getting a motor that only makes 5 laps or what not

[Jacob Shiplet]

They were all marked, we all stood in line and picked out the ones we wanted at random. Nothing to question there. And like Ron said, if only 2 out of 100 were bad, thats pretty good. I bought 2 motors and only put one in, and it was fast. If Ron had my motor, he probably would have won. Although Chris was bad fast with his car.

[Larry Mattingly]

how much practice time were put in on these handout motors??? are you seriously running sooooo much practice that by time the race comes your smoking motors????

Motors weren't handed out until 8:15 AM... Tech closed at 10:30 AM... There were 45 entries 'testing' their motors during that time period.

Is five minutes of practice time too much...

You do the math...

LM

[Larry Mattingly]

thats just insane.....i have never......never...had a bad falcoooooon.....some might be a tick slower but never one that only went 5 laps......something is not right there....and i for one would be questioning the handout process is your getting a motor that only makes 5 laps or what not

Justin

You seriously need to get out more...

They're like any Asian motor... hold your breath.

And in R4 action, folks weren't gearing them conservativly to say the least...

Nothing to question about the hand-out process. Like buying a 'pig-in-a-poke'. That is what handout motor racing is...

LM

[DirtyHairy]

so my question is......how to you burn up a brand new falcon in 2 hours????? ive ran the same motors in my group f for atleast 6 or 7 races and 1/2 hour practices before races (not to mention there geared 13/38) and they still havnt slung a wire........so are these guys putting drops to them or whats causing motors to smoke so fast? it just seems kinda crappy that those motors are flaming out so quick.....

[DirtyHairy]

yea we do handout motor racing every month....I know the drill.... but its just crazy to me that these motors are going that fast......just an observation...no need to get bent out of shape about it....just saying i never had that bad of a motor

[Ron Hershman]

So, you missed a shift in the fifth heat and over-reved the motor. Driver error, not the motor, maybe. The motor probably has a broken valve spring.

I ran 8-28 gearing this time. Some ran 9's on theirs..... my history at TT shows 9's really lose speed over a 24 minute main and go soft.

I should have ran 7-26 like I did a month ago there when I sat the track record of 278 laps and ran 4.99 across all 8 lanes.

Everytime I have ran a 8 t pinion, they go flat at the end.

thats just insane.....i have never......never...had a bad falcoooooon.....some might be a tick slower but never one that only went 5 laps......something is not right there....and i for one would be questioning the handout process is your getting a motor that only makes 5 laps or what not

Well we were all waiting for you to show up and show us how it's done.

As for only going three laps...... what are you going to do when Asian quality shows up and the wire slings off the arm in three laps.

Goes to prove once again cheap Asian motors are not equal and still have quality control issues.

No sour grapes...just they way it is.

I do know that it would have been a more highly competitive and closer race if we were allowed to use Puppy Dog motors like we did the first year.

[Ron Hershman]

so my question is......how to you burn up a brand new falcon in 2 hours????? ive ran the same motors in my group f for atleast 6 or 7 races and 1/2 hour practices before races (not to mention there geared 13/38) and they still havnt slung a wire........so are these guys putting drops to them or whats causing motors to smoke so fast? it just seems kinda crappy that those motors are flaming out so quick.....

LOL two motors didn't even run 15 seconds..... three laps at 5.0 per lap. I don't use comm drops...... only oiled the bushings lightly and that didn't have anything to do with the wire slinging off the armature.

[Tom Thumb Hobbies]

thats just insane.....i have never......never...had a bad falcoooooon.....some might be a tick slower but never one that only went 5 laps......something is not right there....and i for one would be questioning the handout process is your getting a motor that only makes 5 laps or what not

When was the last time you went through almost 150 Falcons in about 2 hours? Considering the racers were gearing these for all the speed they could squeeze out of them (remember - the object here is to win)having only 2 motors returned to me with blown wire and 1 with a questionable "blob" of something on the arm is doing pretty good. Why are you trying to put a bad light on a race you didn't even attend?

[Rick]

thats just insane.....i have never......never...had a bad falcoooooon.....some might be a tick slower but never one that only went 5 laps......something is not right there....and i for one would be questioning the handout process is your getting a motor that only makes 5 laps or what not

I don't understand why you are trying to dig the cat turd out of the rose garden? Jacob said it right, 2 out of a 100 is a pretty good %age. It is what it is with the asian motors. They are all pretty close in performance, for the most part. Noone had the magic bullet and noone had the real turd. You should have been there, it is you guys type of racing, hand out Falcoons, 25 bucks to enter the best race in the country with the best racers in the country is cheap admission for just the show. The winners won because they drove well and had a good car. There is no reason to attempt to downplay the event.

BTW, I bought just one motor and it was good, probably faster than Chris' motor, but I marshelled the main. The cream came to the top, as it alawys does.