I think there are enough similarities to say both chassis were probably built in the same factory. I've seen the lighter weight motor bracket in Rodney's chassis used before in chassis said to be Champion. When I did the blog's eBay forum, they'd show up occasionally. I never saw one in the raceway's I visited or the Champion literature I had.
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Posted 13 February 2021 - 03:17 PM
Don, wow, I have never seen the first generation Champion jail door chassis.
With Oakland Speedway, there was transformer/power pack power (not batteries) for a long time. Everyone seemed to run lightweight Indy/F1 cars. Thingies were in the middle of this. Later came battery power and heavy sports cars and anglewinders.
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Posted 13 February 2021 - 03:31 PM
That is an early Champion Brass Rod frame. There was a multitude of these "brass strip frames" I have a picture of one in the catalog. 
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Posted 13 February 2021 - 09:07 PM
Everyone, thanks for your input. Here are three more Champion chassis inline cars. Note, two cars have rear axle tubes and one has axle bushings.
The Chevy is really fast on a modern hill climb track.
The Ford is a Mirage version. The McLaren is an Mk6.
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Really like the Champion nickel plated chassis. A bit late to the party in the day. But now they are classic beauties, great looking cars Rodney 
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Posted 13 February 2021 - 11:14 PM
All very cool Rodney. The McLaren Mk6 reminds me of something in my future. 
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Posted 14 February 2021 - 12:15 PM
Thanks Martin and Rick. Here are three open wheel Champion frame cars. A couple of Ferrari F1 cars. I do not remember what the yellow body is.
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Posted 14 February 2021 - 03:14 PM
One more Champion inline. Champion 507 motor and Champion wheels. Lotus painted with Poly-S paint.
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Posted 14 February 2021 - 03:38 PM
Nice car Rodney, this is a similar car I restored some time ago.http://slotblog.net/...n-rtr-makeover/
A real favorite of mine.
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Posted 15 February 2021 - 02:17 AM
Chassis made with Champion motor bracket and floppy pans.
Dynamic Chaparral 2F body with Lancer wing.
Mabuchi oval BB can with Arco magnets. Mura armature and endbell.
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Posted 15 February 2021 - 02:36 AM
Another Dynamic Chaparral 2F bodied car.
Chris Chan style "rock and roll" chassis.
Mura motor.
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Posted 15 February 2021 - 02:09 PM
All excellent cars Rodney!
If I may ask you please, what manufacturer made this Mirage body and is it still available today?
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Posted 15 February 2021 - 02:28 PM
Ernie, the Ford Mirage body is a Lancer thick plastic version. I messaged you regarding a Lexan version for you.
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Posted 15 February 2021 - 03:21 PM
Here is the Lancer low and wide version of the Mirage. I painted it with TCL paint back then. It has not curled up yet.
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Posted 15 February 2021 - 04:22 PM
Another Mirage. Champion wheels and inserts.
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Posted 15 February 2021 - 05:20 PM
Rodney, your black Mirage has brass rod chassis sold by Lancer. They also sold a narrow version of that chassis to fit F1 & Indy bodies.
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Thanks Bill.
Lancer Cooper-Maserati RTR.
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Love the Gulf Mirage. The Revs Institute now has the original car https://revsinstitut...1966-ford-gt40/.
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Isaac, I did not see the Gulf Mirage there. Lot of nice cars though 
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Posted 16 February 2021 - 03:47 PM
Added Champion wheels and inserts to this one. The front and rear tires are 7/8" diameter.
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Looks really good now. How does the Champion jaildoor with the Champion 507 handle versus the car with the 517? I'm going to make a similar car so wondering what would be best.
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Posted 16 February 2021 - 05:03 PM
Isaac, I always thought the 517 had more grunt than the 507 to deal with the heavier jail door chassis cars. Maybe more magnetism and thicker wire gauge armatures are the reason.
Also, I do not think the simple Mura rewind motors shown in some of the cars had enough power for jail door chassis. Oval hole BB can Mabuchi based motors work well.
As far as handling, my opinion is the 507 and 517 and even the 617 seem to handle the same on a modern hillclimb track or small club track.
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Posted 16 February 2021 - 05:31 PM
Very helpful. I think I will try to find a 517 or 617 for it. Thanks
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Posted 17 February 2021 - 03:10 PM
Here is one Rick Thigpen painted. Dubro Honker body. Cady decals.
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Posted 17 February 2021 - 06:21 PM
Those are great cars Rod, but I think you've exceeded your quota of Champion jaildoor chassis...
I recently acquired one with a Champion 525 (not sure the arm is original), and was wondering what body to use... hmm, have an original Champion McLaren, that should do the trick... although your Mirages are impressive too. Any tuning tips for these chassis?
The only one of these I've really tried is a Champion Lotus 40 with the Mabuchi BB motor - not too impressive in fact, on an AMF Royal - seems rather underpowered.
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