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[Jon Laster]

Oh, that's beautiful! But where are the MASSIVE solder joints? I like yours better!

Just curious if the treasure trove has been through a Stuebe-style tumbling and beautification, or do they still have patina galore?

Finally, it's been a pleasure reading the recollections about Brady, Ursaner, and Emott. I remember Ursaner (my dad was named Howie!) showing up at BIR one USRA race. I remember wondering if he'd ever had the chance to run on a track as absolutely cool and challenging as a REAL American Hillclimb; they were 3D! And Bob's was the best...

Jon

[Jon Laster]

It just struck me, I never ran anything near that beautiful in my life, Jairus!

[tonyp]

LOL, Bob's Hillclimb was pretty killer.

[TSR]

Oh, that's beautiful! But where are the MASSIVE solder joints?

Jon,

The frames we have from Bob Emott (covering a period of four years) show beautiful craftsmanship with some of the nicest solder joints ever seen in the business...

[Cheater]

It just struck me, I never ran anything near that beautiful in my life, Jairus!

That's a load of crap, Jon. Your cars were always sano.

I've been waiting for you to post some pics of some of your chassis. What's the hold up?

[idare2bdul]

I wouldn't know what his chassis looked like it always went by me too fast!

[Jon Laster]

I still use film and I don't even know how to make paragraphs on this here contraption. I'll inch my way into the late 20th century eventually... and my cars were never THAT good!

No, Bob Emott's chassis earlier on this thread had generous solder flow, the later ones looked tidier. The graphics on the label for that chassis took me back, BIR had the same sort of graphic lettering and designs and was a quite attractive raceway.

[Foamy]

It just struck me, I never ran anything near that beautiful in my life, Jairus!

Hello, what about the PinkyPoint car from the Family Hobbies & Cones Nats?
That thing was badass. You sent me a copier pic of it and the one I made won a hella lot of SoCal races.

[tonyp]

A number of those old Emott chassis look like they had been rebuilt several times so the bigger solder joints. Not sure if the early ones were do with an iron or soldering gun. Only Bob can answer that one...

[Jon Laster]

Tony!

Do you still have your tiny Tony P Spyder chassis you made? I still haven't seen anyone else do that, it was too cool! And yes, soldering large chunks of thick brass requires good heat transfer, the corner of an iron won't do...

Congrats to all Sano participants,

Jon

[TSR]

Jon,

He gave it to Rick Thigpen for restoration. Rick is one of the best to do this.

[tonyp]

Jon,

LOL. I almost forgot about it. Sadly I no longer have it. There was a slot track/R/C raceway called Lugnut in PA that had showcases full of collector stuff. I put that on loan with the only full-sized chassis I had (one PDL sent me). He closed overnight and kept everyone's stuff.

I remember when I found it in a box of chassis Bob Emott still had that I could not imagine how I built it. The pans and front suspension worked. I guess I could see a lot better back then. It would be a perfect project for Rick Thigpen to do.

[Jon Laster]

What a loss, Tony. I saw a motor done by Russell Sheldon that looked like it might have fit... too bad.

Jon

[tonyp]

Jon,

That would have been pretty cool. The chassis was basically half scale... If I remember correctly, all the .063" rails were .032".

[dc-65x]

Hi Tony and Bob,

I've been giving this wonderful chassis of Bob's the first, second, and third degree (thanks, Philippe ). I'm wondering if it's one of Bob's Low CoG versions. It's got the 1/16" pin tube drop arm hinge and really cool, LOW pan stops and the 1/4" brass cross piece is set inside the rails, not on top.









Any memories about this one? Is it a later version of the one you posted, Tony?

Thanks,

[Prof. Fate]

Hi,

I only got one chassis from Emmot but it was the earlier simpler chassis with full pans and a center drop arm cut out.

And it got rebuilt a couple times. That was a fun period if you were a builder, and I had chassis from Tatum and Emmot that was a personal "here try this" sort of thing. I got the Emmot from a friend who had walled it and had not the skills to rebuild it.

That said, any owner of these who knew what the iron was for would be modifying the chassis weekly until it was something new.

I found them easy to drive, but at the time, I didn't have a "proper" track for them. Just a small black and an orange. Heavy chassis on small tracks are different than on Kings. No proper timing either! But I owned local track records for laps in a heat and raced with it for one summer

Fate

[dc-65x]

Thanks for the response, Rocky. I'm bumping this back up to see if there are others.

[Prof. Fate]

Hi,

Well, there is a sad story on how I LOST them!

Anyway, I built semi-copies that involved simplifying some places and strengthening others. The problem with racing serious stuff on hundred foot tracks is that there are a lot of encounters!

One of my bad ideas was doing the bit of filling in the drop arm hole with more brass. It wasn't THAT bad, it just didn't make the car faster even on the short tracks. I did make them faster by limiting the movement a little more.

Fate

[Bugeye]

I received this chassis from a gentleman named Len Picton. He raced with Bob Emott back in the day and got this chassis personally from him. Bob has confirmed knowing him but couldn't tell for sure about the chassis.

Hopefully these better photos will answer the question if it is or isn't a Emott chassis. It is not signed but we have seen others that haven't been signed.

[Prof. Fate]

Hi,

Wow a rivet in the motor? Is that endbell orange?

I have several like this but not by Emmot. Fun stuff, thanks.

Fate

[TSR]

Rocky, it's a Mura pin tab!

Rob, it is hard to tell because the front axle arrangement is very unlike Bob's stuff, but only Bob himself can tell you if it is something he built or not. It is obviously an earlier chassis than the ones we are used to seeing from him, this one probably built in mid-1967 from the style of its construction. Definitely well built. If Bob cannot remember, I would ask Tony P for his opinion.

[Bugeye]

I don't think this was the motor Len originally had in the car. Just put it in for some fun laps.

[tonyp]

I'd say Bob did not build it.

[TSR]

It appears to be nicely built. If anything, it looks like quite inspired by the 1967 West Coast F1 style built by Cukras and Warmack. I think that Bob Emott has really never copied anyone, he was THE trendsetter in the East.

[George Kimber]

Hi Tony.

I am currently building an 'Emott" anglewinder for the UK Retro Championships and our rules stipulate a front clearance of .047" (18 swg) and a rear clearance of .063" (16swg).

Are these ground clearances what you Pro racers were running back in the '60s, early '70s (up to 1972)?

George