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#51 cosmicnode

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:15 AM

The blue one is the original car displayed in the racing car show in 1969 at Earls Court; there is a photo in one of the model car magazines of that year.

Did the red one race in 1969? It has a McLaren M8D shaped rear. Every photo I see says 1969 Lola T162.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:33 AM

I believe the good Sir Dilworth makes it and this is it.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:17 AM

Nice-looking body and in the spirit of Retro racing as intended IMHO.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:21 AM

Did the red one race in 1969? It has a McLaren M8D shaped rear. Every photo I see says 1969 Lola T162.


That "red" Lola is a 1969 chassis with much later/different body work that was NEVER used/raced in 1969 or earlier.

Believe me... if it had been raced in 1969 or earlier... I would have made that body years ago... LOL.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:57 AM

Here is an example of the Dillworth body the late Jimmi Bostrom painted for me... I cut it too short... Anyone need one for Retro Flexi?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:07 PM

That "red" Lola is a 1969 chassis with much later/different body work that was NEVER used/raced in 1969 or earlier.

Monte Shelton used both the M8D/F and the Porsche 917-20 designs to craft that gorgeous body. Shelton used the car in 1972 and 1973 with mitigated luck, then the car sat for many years until sold to Tom Armstrong who did a gorgeous restoration job on it, then has been racing it in vintage events for the past 20 years.

The T162 was followed by the equally unsuccessful T163, then there was a one-off T165, raced in 1969 by Carl Haas and Chuck Parsons, that now belongs to Electric Dreams' owner Scott Bader:

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Unlike on this prototype, the production T165 had an enclosed back like that of a T163. The T165 had zero rear spoiler and instead got all its down force from the high wing.

Here is a T163, still with a minimal rear spoiler but fitted with the high wing;

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:20 PM

A photo of the Bob Dini Lola T162 racing at Bridgehampton in 1969 is available here... http://www.racingspo...1969-09-14.html

Not the greatest picture, but it's there.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:57 PM

This is the "red" car referred to...... yes the "chassis" raced in 1969..... the body work in these pics DID NOT.

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For the 1969 season, Lola produced two examples of the T-162 Can-Am chassis. They were chassis numbers SL162/13 and SL162/14. Chassis number 14 was sold to Bob Dini Enterprises and raced extensively during the 1969 and 1970 season by Mr. Dini. It campaigned in four of the championship rounds at Watkins Glen, Road America, Bridgehampton, and Laguna Seca. The best result for the car was a 16th place at Bridgehampton.

The following season, chassis number 14 continued its racing career under the banner of Dini Enterprises, competing at Mosport and Mt. Tremblant, where the car was damaged in a frontal collision. It would be many years before the car was repaired. In 1987, the car was purchased by Fantasy Junction from a former Dini Enterprises employee and sold it to Can-Am collector and historian Jerry Weichers. Fantasy Junction brokered the same of the un-repaired car in 1996 to its second owner, who commissioned a complete restoration. Harold Drinkwater of Salinas, California was hired to repair the tub and monocoque. Ken McMurphy was tasked with the paint work, and PRD Engineering of Sonoma California built the wing and body mounts, plus other components. The new motor was built by Tom Crowther, which is now its spare powerplant. A 478 cubic-inch engine was built by Owen racing Engines in Texas. It was given a Kinsler injection system which helped in the production of approximately 700 horsepower.

Chassis number SL162/13 is currently owned by Mr. Armstrong of WA, who has been avidly campaigning the car in vintage racing for many years.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:23 PM

This is the "red" car referred to...... yes the "chassis" raced in 1969..... the body work in these pics DID NOT.


As any butthead can tell from the picture at http://www.racingspo...1969-09-14.html

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:38 PM

I think this model Lola may have been one of the last bodies that Lancer came out with after Lloyd Asbury had left and they got out of the slot business.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:46 PM

Steve,
If you are talking about the red car, its body was built 2 years after lancer packed up... :)
There is a Lancer T162, a fairly rare body today, in the LASCM collection, as well as a Dynamic "Handling Bodies" version of it. Both were produced in 1969.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:17 PM

PDL,

You may be right. Do you have any pics of that Lola 162? Also what was the very last Lancer CanAm body produced? A March 707 or that Lola?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:38 PM

There were a few of which tooling had already been done by Lloyd that went in production just before he left. The T162, apparently a Ti22, the March and the 1969 Eagle F1 renamed "A" Formula, and others, formed the last gasp.

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