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#26 Ron Hershman

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:54 PM

Well, in five minutes, we will have the Gurney flap on some 1968 obscure car in the Hungarian Can-Am... :)


Well some of those Porsches ran the "reverse" flap in 68 on their Sports cars ;)

Another addition to the ongoing fetish of running Ti22s because they work better.

Personally I think the only legal bodies for racing should be the ones that actually won some races in the real world during the required time frame (or at least had the decency to have finished the race).


McLarens for everyone!!!




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Posted 10 February 2012 - 04:50 PM

Would that be any different than what we have now... All Ti22s or all McLarens??

Hey Noose, Maybe we need to esta a handicapping system where you get extra points or laps if you run a body other than a Ti22?? Maybe you can even tier the bodies from high to low and get even a bigger spread of points/laps... :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 05:01 PM

Jim, that limits you pretty much to the McLaren MK6, McLaren MK8A, McLaren MK8B, McLarenMK8C (which as a slot car all look the same), and a lone win each for an old Porsche 908 and a Chaparral 2E...



The M8C was a 1970 car, and in any case was never a winner in a Can-Am race.

And the lone "old Porsche 908" victory came in 1970, at Road Atlanta.

But you can add the LolaT70, McLaren M1B and M6B to the list of winners too. Surtees, Gurney and Donohue all won in T70s, John Cannon won in the wet at Laguna Seca in an M1B and Donohue won at Bridgehampton in an M6B against the works M8A cars in 1968.

And the M8A is visually quite different to the M8B/C, at least in the original works versions.

Can you tell I'm passionate about Can-Am and McLarens??? :)
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 05:22 PM

Can you tell I'm passionate about Can-Am and McLarens??? :)

Yes indeed. :)
I put the 908 there because Dean also ran it in 1969. The T70 won the first Can Am championship and I had forgotten about John Cannon's win in the M1B, but like for the T70, who is going to run one in retro Can Am?
The M8's are indeed different but it is mostly a question on a slot car body, of how you trim the front fenders and fold the plastic behind the wheel because the rest of the details are not much different...
But the point I was making, is that would limit the number of available bodies quite a bit. Then again, looks like only two or three are really being used anyway, just like in full size racing; what's work is what's everybody uses in the long run...
And when are we going to run those high wings?

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 05:22 PM

McLarens for everyone!!!

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OK, rather than McLarens all around, just bite the bullet and use the Shadow, it looks even more like a slot car body than the Ti22, and it uses slot car sized wheels.

After all, it's a small version of the Ti22, and it was around in 1968/69.
http://www.conceptca...-Prototype.aspx

McLarens would be OK by me, though, I certainly never used a Ti22 in1969/70.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 05:36 PM

Jim,
That Shadow was only tested once, it never raced in that form because when it was attempted to be tested, it was found that a 6' driver simply could not fit in it! Then it was damaged in transit and parked for good in Salinas at AVS and they immediately built a second tub with the tiny body around it that Elford drove. In retro Can-Am, it look like a 1/32 scale car! :)
But both Dynamic, Champion and Lancer made slot car bodies of that first job. It would be fun to run! In fact i do have a spare Champion and will paint one to run at the next King track race just for the fun of it!
In 1969, most of the pro racers nationwide were using the Dynamic or the Champion McLaren M8A bodies on their angle-winder open-class cars.
Here is a 1969 car illustrating the point:

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And the Champion AVS Shadow MK1:

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And how about the Chaparral 2H?

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That one was also made by Lancer and Dynamic... :)

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 05:44 PM

Did not mean to stir up everyone... sorry.



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Posted 10 February 2012 - 05:54 PM

Stirring is part of the excitement and why we have over 3000 subscribers... and one of the largest hit count of slot car forums in the USA. :)

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 06:25 PM

Yup we ran McLarens. Personally I think we should all run Chappy's!

Tex - you paying attention?

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 06:55 PM

Stirring is part of the excitement and why we have over 3000 subscribers... and one of the largest hit count of slot car forums in the USA. :)


... :shok: :laugh2: :heart:

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:16 PM

Seems to me the AMT Crap Kit is getting 5 times more viewers than this thread.........let me know what I can run.......You purists can hash it out.........I have a spoiler on my Monte but do not have any "Fences".......LoL
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:17 PM

Stirring is part of the excitement and why we have over 3000 subscribers... and one of the largest hit count of slot car forums in the USA. :)


Everyone likes to watch the train wreck....except for those on the train ;)

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:33 PM

You are welcome to jump off at the next stop and ride a horse to your destination. :)

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:35 PM

Yup we ran McLarens. Personally I think we should all run Chappy's!


Ohhhh riiiight....better get in a whole a lot of WHITE PAINT, Jack!

Personally I like the geeky historical stuf a lot (and the Polar Lights/ AMT cars can sit in their boxes!)--the fine points around cutoff dates in Rules are always interesting. Thanks, all, for bein' so entertaining.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:42 PM

It's been a slow week Duffy. Got to keep the interest going here somehow.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 08:22 PM

'f y' reely need to liven things up, just ask & I'll do my Erich Staler impersonation. Kills 'em at parties.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 08:24 PM

Do Bruce McLaren and they will listen. Jim Clark and I'll listen. LOL

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:34 PM

You are welcome to jump off at the next stop and ride a horse to your destination. :)


I just did...... rode right into "freeblog" :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:37 PM

I hope the crash was not too painful for you.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:39 PM

I hope the crash was not too painful for you.


Depending on my replies to you and all the "right" fellows down there.....it could be painful for you and them ;) :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:55 PM

you guys are a hoot
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:59 PM

Depending on my replies to you and all the "right" fellows down there.....it could be painful for you and them


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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:01 PM

Do Bruce McLaren and they will listen. Jim Clark and I'll listen. LOL


Nope, I only do Staler. "--He's fast, I'm fast, we're always at the party, you know?"
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 05:05 PM

Do a search for the 1969 Lola T162 its a pre-McLaren, Mclaren look-alike.

Just got the new Ti22, it's amazing.
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 05:24 PM

If you are talking about THIS ONE, its body was devised in 1972 by Monte Shelton and is vastly different from the original T162 that looked like this in 1969:

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Only two T162 were ever built. This is one, the red car that belongs to Tom Armstrong today is the other.
The T162 used the same body as the T160, except that the rear spoiler was completely removed and replaced by a large wing mounted 12" above the body.

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