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#1 Steve Okeefe

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 10:27 AM

Pittman DC-196 hybrid motors

 

During the Pittman Era, the practice of de-winding and re-winding slot car armatures to improve their performance was still fairly uncommon.  Instead, builders swapped armatures between motor setups in an attempt to get an edge on the competition.

 

Swapping a much hotter Pittman DC-65X armature into a Pittman DC-196 or 196A setup improved its performance significantly.

 

Howie Ursaner writes: Nothing could touch the 196 and when we put the armature from the dc-65x in it was unbeatable until the mabuchi rewinds eventually took over.

 

And in another post: The dc65x motors were rated at 6v.  The dc65 rated at 12v.  The x was a much hotter wind. When I talked to Charlie PittmanI told him we needed hotter winds.  The 65x arm in the 196b really flew and I raced against many a rewound can with it.  They ran forever also.  I really can't remember anyone rewinding the 5 pole armatures.

 

Fred Correnti writes:  I built a DC196A (Green wire) in a Gar Vic chassis with a drop arm that was pretty quick at Polks until somebody put on one with DC65 arm...

 

The DC-196B motor would also have been a prime candidate for such parts swapping, except that it was introduced at a time when the top builders and drivers were moving on to the Mabuchi tin-can motors.

 

If you have additional information and/or photos of Pittman DC-196 hybrid motors, please reply!


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 09:47 PM

It's really quite amazing in retrospect, how quickly the Mabuchi rewinds forced the Pittmans out. The Pittmans were heavy and reliable, qualities that were great for a train motor but much less desireable in a slot car.
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Posted 07 December 2013 - 11:24 PM

I won the 1968 Western Canada Grand Prix in GT class with a Hybrid 196/65A, with ball bearings on both the Armature and Rear axle.

 

This was well after these motors were considered non competitive against the full sidewinder Mabuchi powered pan and wire cars.

 

I also did it with an injected scale width Hardbody (Monogram 250 GTO) against everybody else's starting to get wider vac bodies.

 

I still have the motor, but, I'm pretty sure the rest of the bits are long gone. 


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