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[slotcarone]

There is nothing wrong with the current IRRA Stock Car rules.  The cars handle just fine when set up correctly. My suggestion to John Martin is to go to a smaller pinion to slow the car down and improve the cornering ability and drivability. Sounds like some harder tires are in order--I always use wonder rubber on these cars to loosen them up.  Just some suggestions

[Danny Zona]

I'm with JC myself. I do like the IRRA stock car class and I know its called retro racing, but its hard for the younger generation to relate to nascars that are 50 plus years old. Don't get me wrong, they look cool to me going around the track. Its just the young guns are not interested in cars there grandparents and in some cases great grandparents drove\raced. Its just a thought.

[Rick]

I dont think there are any current scale appearing stock car bodies available? The ones I have seen have a cockpit instead of a roof and are hideous examples. I can see where younger racers would relate better to current models, if they existed..............

[Noose]

When you talk younger racers relating to the "ancient" stock cars that their great grandparents watched, then I assume you are OK with racing a car with a frame that their grandfather used to race.  LOL

 

Any of the "modern" stock car bodies are nothing but blobs IMO and so if they can relate to blobs so be it

[Danny Zona]

What I love and some of the young guns love about retro is the fact you can build a chassi from ground zero. You can make your own or use a kit and make it better. I don't think my retro chassi resembles anything like the the chassis from the '60-'70s. LOL. I do agree with you Noose on the newer nascar bodies being like blobs. But I'm not a fan of the Can-Am bodies also. They look like a bunch of wedges running out there. I'm not hear tring to say either Can-Am or Stockers are a bad class. Ill run womps with wings if racers show up. Just looking towards the future that's all.

[John Streisguth]

Um, it's called retro for a reason???

 

Seriously, if it's such a great idea, start something up.  Let's not start tweaking the heck out of an existing succesful program. Or adding endless classes.  That was part of the downfall of USRA, IMO...trying to be everything to everyone.

[John Streisguth]

Duffy, leave it to you to put it so succinctly....

[Pablo]

I have no idea where Duf stands on this issue.

 

But, John S. post 32 is exactly how I feel.

 

 

Go ahead and start something new, but don't mess with IRRA. It works as is.

 

 

[GotToRace]

TRANS-AM !   Mustang's, Camaro's, Challenger's, Cuda's, Javelin"s

[Rick]

Um, it's called retro for a reason???

 

Seriously, if it's such a great idea, start something up.  Let's not start tweaking the heck out of an existing succesful program. Or adding endless classes.  That was part of the downfall of USRA, IMO...trying to be everything to everyone.

John, maybe you haven't noticed but the tweaking has already started. LOL It will only get worse from here on out................ 

[Pablo]

Rick, you are wrong. Laugh away, Sir. The only "tweaking" is people starting new groups that are similar to IRRA - wannabes- .

The original, and best, IRRA , remains solid as a rock. The only thing getting "worse from here on out", as you put it, is people who think they can make a better mousetrap by making slight modifications to the original mousetrap, instead of creating something totally original and new. Nobody is stopping you from creating a better, or new, racing series. Why don't you leave the original IRRA alone, and create your new moustrap, instead of ridiculing those of us who are happy with the way things are ?

 

Respectfully,

 

Pablissimo

[Rick]

Pablo, who's laughing away?

 

And time will tell if I am wrong or not? When orgs and such become agenda driven, that's a bad thing!

 

PS: That was NOT respectful, that was your opinion of my opinion and mean spirited. IMO

[Tim Neja]

Well I agree with Jim Fowler--- slow the cars down and everything gets easier to drive and tighter finish's!  But I have to agree also that the IRRA is very successful--why mess with it?? Out in the west at BPR--we're having some of the best racing and largest turnouts in the last several years--and  we downsized with LESS class's and there's MORE racers!! Go figure--it doesn't take a LOT of different class's to get a lot of racers interested--just good class's and well run races!! If you like different class's--I'm sure your track owner will let you run your OWN series and see if it attracts more racers.  The proof will be in your pudding--go for it!  All racing is good!
 

[slotcarone]

Consistancy of classes is one of the keys to a successful racing series IMO and the success of the IRRA is proof of this.

[John Streisguth]

Rick, I disagree about agenda driven being a bad idea.  It's when too many people are trying to steer the ship that the boat hits a reef.  Right now the current BOD has a clear agenda and they are sticking to it with subtle tweaks to hopefully make things better for the participants.  Not everyone will agree with the way things are done, but at least the changes are small.  When people are winning with chassis and bodies that are 3 years old, that's a good program.

[John Streisguth]

Duffy, leave it to you to put it so succinctly....

HUh?// Where'd he go??

[Pablo]

"Pablo, who's laughing away?" 

Maybe you forgot what you wrote, Rick.  Read your own words here: 

 

"John, maybe you haven't noticed but the tweaking has already started. LOL"

[Rick]

You see John, you think I am dissing the IRRA™ and nothing would be further from the truth. You need to look around the entire country and watch what's going on. although I may not agree withall that ™ does, it in no way means I am implying THEY have an agenda. Their mission has been pretty steady from beginning to now................

[John Streisguth]

Hmmm...maybe you're speaking of some other organization...

[Danny Zona]

I love the IRRA rules. I love and respect the BoD members. Its a tuff job and I'm glad they are doing it. I'm just looking towards the future, that's all. I'm not saying let's go out and change rules around right now. I'm just looking 5 to 10yrs down the road when all of us racers are getting even older and there are no younger racers coming around to replace\race with us. I'm just making a suggesting or two about what some of the younger racers have said. I'm not here to ruffle anybodys feathers. Its just an opinion! Like I always say, "Ill race any form of slot racing when racers are showing up." I'm a true slotcar junkie. LOL

[Noose]

Danny, heck I hope I am around and still racing "down the road" in those 5 to 10 years!  LOL

[John Streisguth]

Ain't nothin' gonna last forever...

[John C Martin]

I count only 14 different bloggers responded, not a lot of response from 917 readers.so as Phil says on duck dynasty they must be ( happy, happy, happy,) after all Danny it's their world we're just passing thru it..LOL.. Over & out..