Jig wheel advice
#1
Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:39 PM
My current wheels are round, with multiple adjustments. Frankly, I find it a PITA when they sometimes turn slightly on the axle and mess up my settings. Being the careless kind of guy that I am, I think I need something a bit more fool-proof.
That's why I'm thinking I should convert to either square or otherwise-angled wheels. I'd prefer to avoid buying numerous sets - instead just one with multiple settings (for .8125" & .790" rears plus .750" fronts) would be preferable.
Suggestions - aside from being more careful while building?
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#2
Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:51 PM
#3
Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:13 PM
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#4
Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:13 PM
I have the old style RGEO round aluminum retro wheels and they are perfect.
You cannot go wrong with RGEO tools. I still have every RGEO tool I ever bought.
As far as wheels for .790, not necessary, as the clearance requirement is less, which evens out in the end. Rick can probably explain it better.
Paul Wolcott
#5
Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:34 PM
#6
Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:21 PM
When I am stuck looking for an odd size, I look into my spur gear drawer and find my old drag gears....using a pair of 54t for a car now.....
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#7
Posted 26 April 2013 - 08:27 AM
Thanks for the input, guys. Although I was trying to avoid another set of round ones, it might be the most viable solution. I was kinda hoping someone could recommend a squared set that lies flat and steady --- to counteract my unsteady skills. But Rick's idea of the set screw might be a sufficient remedy.
Good scratchbuilding to all.
jb
South Carolina, USA
"Assuming either the Left Wing or the Right Wing gained control of the country, it would probably fly around in circles."
- Pat Paulsen, 1968
"I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol."
- Steven Wright ca. 1983
#8
Posted 26 April 2013 - 08:45 AM
3/32" axle retro class set-up blocks. New design sets chassis clearance to .050. Select tire size with blocks on axle and bushings in place. Grind out axle uprights until chassis sits flat on your PSC chassis fixture. Clearance is set .010 higher than tire size so you can practice, break in your tires and still make tech. If you are looking for a different axle size please send an E-Mail or call.
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#9
Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:09 AM
It would appear that the "1.00" is printed upside-down on those jig-wheels.
#10
Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:13 AM
Jim,
If you're building in a jig then round or square shouldn't matter since the axles are "locked" in location.
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#11
Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:20 AM
I was wondering the same thing, Don. He said:
"I find it a PITA when they sometimes turn slightly on the axle and mess up my settings."
How can a perfectly round wheel change a setting when it turns ?
Whatever. If Jimbo likes square, those Precision are really sweet.
Paul Wolcott
#12
Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:51 AM
Mine are not perfectly round:
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My current wheels are round, with multiple adjustments.
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Maybe it would be best if I just leave the scratchbuilding to you guys who take the time to do it right.
South Carolina, USA
"Assuming either the Left Wing or the Right Wing gained control of the country, it would probably fly around in circles."
- Pat Paulsen, 1968
"I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol."
- Steven Wright ca. 1983
#13
Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:58 AM
Balderdash. Buy some good jig wheels and build. Never ever ever give up !!!
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#14
Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:03 AM
Another option for you is to take an set of old tires and trim them down to use as jig wheels. For example, for .812 tires with .050 clearance, cut your tires to .712 for jig wheels. For .750, cut them to .720...
#15
Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:21 PM
Precision has these... 2000 3/32" RETRO Set-Up Wheel Blocks
3/32" axle retro class set-up blocks. New design sets chassis clearance to .050. Select tire size with blocks on axle and bushings in place. Grind out axle uprights until chassis sits flat on your PSC chassis fixture. Clearance is set .010 higher than tire size so you can practice, break in your tires and still make tech. If you are looking for a different axle size please send an E-Mail or call.
Jim,
I have these in stock.
V/R,
Don
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#16
Posted 26 April 2013 - 02:59 PM
Lookie there, Jim, right under your nose, in your own backyard
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#17
Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:18 PM
My current wheels are round, with multiple adjustments
Jim, it sounds like you are using a pair of Camen aluminum jig wheels with the two different flats that provide for three different tire sizes. I have a pair of these too, but agree they can rotate because they don't have a setscrew to lock them on an axle. The RGEOs have a set screw that eliminates this problem. I have square corian ones by ABC & Backtrack. Both of these sit flat & don't require a set screw. My personal preference is the round ones with setscrews like RGEO makes. I've been using some Champion jig wheels of this type since the early 1970's & they work fine..
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#18
Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:30 PM
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#19
Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:18 PM
Why not just use a pair of matching sized spur gears?
I also have a set of the square Precision blocks as well as an old pair of round aluminium Camen wheels with the two flat spots on them.
I know which set-up I prefer
#20
Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:43 AM
Sometimes i use Parma inline gears. I think they worK better than spur gears because they are round all the way around.
#21
Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:56 AM
Sometimes i use Parma inline gears. I think they worK better than spur gears because they are round all the way around.
?? as opposed to square all the way around?
#22
Posted 27 April 2013 - 07:31 AM
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#23
Posted 07 May 2013 - 03:55 PM
Thought I would post the most recent set of retro jig wheels.
3/32" axle retro class set-up blocks. .812 and .790 sets chassis clearance to .050
Select tire size, with blocks on axle and bushings in place.
Grind out chassis uprights until chassis and blocks sit flat on your PSC chassis fixture.
.750 and .625 set your front axle at .015 clearance.
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#24
Posted 07 May 2013 - 05:49 PM
Thanks to all for the advice.
Since I already had a set of round retro jig wheels, I chose the Precision jigs during Saturday's trip to Slots of Fun. I"m looking forward to giving them a try at my first opportunity. Maybe these square wheels can hold their position for me a bit better. I could sure use the help!
Again, my thanks for the input.
jb
South Carolina, USA
"Assuming either the Left Wing or the Right Wing gained control of the country, it would probably fly around in circles."
- Pat Paulsen, 1968
"I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol."
- Steven Wright ca. 1983
#25
Posted 07 May 2013 - 06:34 PM