38 replies to this topic

[Noose]

Contrary to what might be being stated in other areas, the IRRA™ has no intentions to change the allowed motors in designated classes. 

While the new Hawk Retro FK motor has proven to be competitive and reliable, it shall remain the racer's decision to use them in those classes where they are allowed with the other permitted motors.
 
 

[Greg VanPeenen]

Noose,
 
Dan at Pro Slot just released a new FK Spec motor. Any chance that one gets approved for IRRA™ racing? The real IRRA™ that is...  
 
Regards,

GVP

[Tex]

Man, y'all don't give the rumor mill a chance to get wound up good before ya go and shut it down. Sheesh!

[MG Brown]

"There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde

[Brian Russo]

Ran the new Retro Hawk Today on a Hillclimb in my Stock Car. Very Fast, had a lot of power. For my driving skills I need more braking then the Hawk will give me. But you gotta love that "Falcon roll".

Seems more dependable than previous designs. Also ran a lot cooler then previous designs.

Each to their own.

[John C Martin]

Brian,

Did you run a 9 tooth, that should be the gear with a 29 or 8/26, near same... at about 135 grams.

I luv 'em.

[Noose]

In Stock Car the winners ran 8/28 or 8/29.

In Can-Am the winner ran 9/28 and the others ran 8/27 or 8/28.

This hillclimb is only 120 feet but very fast.

[Brian Russo]

Putting together my Coupe for the up coming race at Slots-A-Lot. Should get a way better idea about the Retro Hawk for me.

I haven't put hardly any time in my Stock Car so I can't really tell from Saturday's race. I really stunk it up with my Stock Car. Had a lot of fun which supersedes everything else.

[slotcarone]

Brian,

If you use a 8/27 or 9/29 gears in your GT Coupe car, the Retro Hawk will have plenty of brakes on the King track at Slots. The lighter weight makes a big difference here.

[John C Martin]

Guys,

I know the ratios can be the same sometimes using 8s and 9s with whatever spur. But what else is or can be different, aside from slight difference in turning weight, in the larger gears, which I consider somewhat important. You think there's more work for the motor using the 9 vs 8??

I would ask Phil Robertson but he ain't answering any more questions...

[Brian Russo]

Thanks, Mike. I'll definitely take your advice with the gearing.

[Arne Saknussem]

It's been my experience that a smoother gear mesh comes with a 9/29 than 8/26 (IMO, a result of more surface area and less severe angles) all other things being the same.  Sometimes one manufacturer's pinion gears don't match well with another's and that's proven true for me with certain pinions against Parma crowns, so that's another factor to weigh.  The presence of a measurable additional load on the motor (of a 9 as opposed to an 8) seems more theoretical than evidentiary.

That said, anyone else want to chirp on this one?

[John C Martin]

Right, Pete, gear mesh is the plus, and turning weight.

Theoretically seems that little weight as little as it is, the 8/26 may be better? Or is it a wash?

Where's Sheldon Cooper when you want him?

[Noose]

Where's Sheldon Cooper when you want him?

 

Knock, knock, knocking on Penny's door.

[Samiam]

Actually I think we need Howard Wolowitz on this.

[John C Martin]

You're right I just couldn't spell Wollowitzeky... still can't...

[John C Martin]

Knock, knock, knocking on Penny's door.

That would sound like "knock, knock, knocking on heavens door".

Yes, yes, yes.

[Arne Saknussem]

I shall have to calculate the moment of inertia of what will be, in fact, the ends of the pinion teeth. Hmmm.

[Samiam]

You're right I just couldn't spell Wollowitzeky... still can't...

That was the family name before they got to Ellis Island.

[John C Martin]

Yeah, Pete, what you said... something's happening...

 

Sam, that is funny, thanks. I needed that...

[Samiam]

John,

 

Glad to know some people can still laugh.

 

I'll be here all week. 

[Cheater]

I'll be here all week.

Don't threaten us!   

[John C Martin]

John,
 
Glad to know some people can still laugh.
 
I'll be here all week. 

 

Yep, to me it's always been about fun... not the challenge to beat everybody... just doing my best with what I got. So I guess I'm just challenging myself.. don't get me wrong, I like to win.. .but I like my own challenge to run my best the most with what I got. And i'll do better next time... knowing I did the best with what I got makes me the happiest.

I don't worry anymore about beating the guys spending the big bucks to win. I was there once (thanks to Terry Kelly...his bucks). Winning more than losing.

Believe it or not I'm having just as much fun (won one Retro race in a year).

Just don't set your standards so high (to avoid disappointment ) to beat the Matts, Ralphs, Captains or the latest greatest driver of this period.You'll have more fun, and spend less money. Whatever is said... remember money and youth (hand to eye coordination and eyesight) and knowledge will usually win.

If you don't want to do that or can't... so what, I still had a ball racing somebody.

So can you...

Just try it...

[GotToRace]

Right on, JC. That's the way it should be. We ain't racing to make a living.

[Samiam]

John,

 You NAILED it! That is what this is all about. And from the car count at retro races recently, It seems to be working. But don't rule out the veterans. Have you seen the line up in the A & B mains?