Yes. Lots of excess HP so you have the luxury of setting the mesh tight.
Anyway you are running 30 ft. of choke with a lighter car on a flat track.
Apples and oranges.
New crown gears by Red Fox coming soon
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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:34 PM
Duffy and Philippe,
I enjoyed reading your tech stuff on polymers and these gears, especially the glass fill percentage. I work in an industry that uses a lot of Ultem and PEEK, both unfilled and either 15% or 30% glass filled. I wonder what type of plastic the gears are?
The new gears look awesome, can't wait to try them out.
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Why can't someone make a crown gear like the drag ones but in 48 pitch sizes 26t-34t
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Posted 20 February 2014 - 07:03 AM
In the overall scheme of things, the cost of crown hears isn't very much. I really dislike having to sleeve the Parma gear.
Speaking of gears, I always though it odd when I would solder a expensive hardened pinion on to a cheap Falcon motor.
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Posted 20 February 2014 - 09:57 AM
In the overall scheme of things, the cost of crown hears isn't very much. I really dislike having to sleeve the Parma gear.
Speaking of gears, I always though it odd when I would solder a expensive hardened pinion on to a cheap Falcon motor.
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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:46 AM
Bic lighter breakin on hypoid setups apparently work okay, nice.
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In all the years I have been using the pink Parma 48 pitch gears I have only once had a problem and it was only a case of some of the plastic teeth not being fully formed.........a simple injection problem and I just returned it. Other than that, NEVER a single problem and I am presently removing 1/2 the hub to lighten them. No problems with the sleeves and sometimes they aren't PERFECTLY concentric but it poses no problems whatsoever. I just set the backlash at the tightest spot and if it's a little loose on the other side it has never seemed to make a difference.
I have never broken them in, have always run full hypoid, and I have never had a Parma gear problem in almost 7 years of Retro racing......... Basically bulletproof in my experience and I'm sure the Red Fox's will be just as good.
That GuGu would come out with a gear to compete with the ubiquitous Parma seems to reflect the overall healthy status of Retro slot car racing in general! 
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Anyone have the OD on the 29 gear?
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I found Redd Foxx to be a Side Splitter from then on.
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Yup to what Ray said.. Listen to some of his old 60s comedy albums.
The first one I heard was 'Side Splitter' at about 8 years old... 
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Now back to the Red Fox gear commercial announcement. If they are 'better' than others on the market it's all good.
Big thanks to GuGu for creating options 
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 08:47 PM
They look great. Only thing i would say is make sure the plastic is like Parmas nice & soft and not a harder maybe brittle material and I would make the OD a little smaller on them maybe .700 on the 29.
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 06:37 PM
These gears have been out awhile now any feedback on them?
Do they make the motor run better then a Parma?
Does the extra noise hurt the performance?
Is there a good mesh?
Anyone run a few races with one?
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I ran a 28 last night in the F-1 race at Modelville Hobby. I simply took the Parma 28 off and put on the Red Fox and lap times were identical. There is a different pitch (noise) with these gears but did not effect the motor at all. I will say you want the side play a little tighter until the gear wears in as it appears the teeth are not cut as deep as the parma. Also held up well agaist some hits. I will perhaps try these again at the NERR event this saturday.
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No gain or loss in performance, they do make a lil more noise. I haven't run one in a race so I can't comment on durability
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 11:30 AM
When the Parma's are set up correctly with a new pinion they typically make no noise. Noise is not good IMO. We shall see!!!
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thanks Dominic, Cap & Mike!
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