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[havlicek]

I got the Kirkwood comms from Brian and figured I'd do up one of the ProSlot arms with one. These are nice comms...they seem like they're built to last, even if they are more "mature" :-) Thanks Brian!



-john

[One_Track_Mind]

Your Welcome, John

glad to see someone could find a use for some of them.

Great job your doing, keep on...keeping on!!

[havlicek]

Great job your doing, keep on...keeping on!!

...OK Brian , so here's a #23awg wind on a new Mura blank:


This is starting to get close to as heavy a gauge wire you can comfortably wind on these little arms, crimping and soldering-off the comm tabs being the real limiting factor. This one also seems to be one of the strongest, if not the strongest so far

-john

[hdmcss3@gmail.com]

Where can I get one?

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[hdmcss3@gmail.com]

Where can I get winding tools?

[olescratch]

Go to the motor building topic, you will probably end-up fabricating most of your own stuff (like most of us) because there is little to none being produced on a commercial level!!

[Ben Morrow]

Hey Guys,

 

If someone on the forum here that had the skills and tools would make some of these arm winders or even just the armature clamp parts

I would think there would be quite the market/interest right here at Slotblog as well as many other places.

 

I would think just maybe the arm clamps could be made with 1/2" HDPE. "Tough Stuff"!!

 

I feel what John has shown and shared to be fun and not that hard   many would follow along.

 

We have a really nice "How To" right here! We just need the parts.

 

I for sure would be interested  

 

Nice Job John!

[Phil Smith]

They occasionally pop up on ebay. I bought this recently.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/253368312095

[Jesse Gonzales]

With all the interest in winding spurred by JH's fine posts and even finer "Wiresmithing" I had considered making some with HDPE as mentioned above. The one I used in 1965 was made from steel and scrap auto handle, it left dents in the stacks then Bill Ussery gave me his old LeGank and I've used it since. They aren't hard to make and if I recall there are plans available to make your own.

 

Winding and making your own armatures is is fun, the sad part is rules, there are people with a vested interest in maintaining the established manufacturers with the resources to meet the rules. So you will have to be content with making arms that only you run for play, if you want to run them head to head with the best out there you'll have to work on getting some rules changes that will allow the little guys to get their craftsmanship on the track.

 

If I do make some winders, I'll post it here and send Gred some cash money for the space.

 

Jess Gonzales

[Ben Morrow]

They occasionally pop up on ebay. I bought this recently.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/253368312095

 

 

Hey Dallas,

 

There was one last week on ebay, Had a crack in the plastic box top (Who cares, I want the tools). I offered 50 bucks + shipping. Seller turned me down. I would have jumped on your deal too! Glad you found yours.

[Ben Morrow]

With all the interest in winding spurred by JH's fine posts and even finer "Wiresmithing" I had considered making some with HDPE as mentioned above. The one I used in 1965 was made from steel and scrap auto handle, it left dents in the stacks then Bill Ussery gave me his old LeGank and I've used it since. They aren't hard to make and if I recall there are plans available to make your own.

 

Winding and making your own armatures is is fun, the sad part is rules, there are people with a vested interest in maintaining the established manufacturers with the resources to meet the rules. So you will have to be content with making arms that only you run for play, if you want to run them head to head with the best out there you'll have to work on getting some rules changes that will allow the little guys to get their craftsmanship on the track.

 

If I do make some winders, I'll post it here and send Gred some cash money for the space.

 

Jess Gonzales

 

 

 Jess,

 

I really think there would be interest. Also I think the 1/2" HDPE would be plenty tough/strong for the arm clamps + it can be threaded with ease "1/4X20 for a crank handle and the bolt/screw to hold the arm good and tight . The crank tower also HDPE.

The bases could be made of good hardwood at home.

[wbugenis]

 

 

Winding and making your own armatures is is fun, the sad part is rules, there are people with a vested interest in maintaining the established manufacturers with the resources to meet the rules. So you will have to be content with making arms that only you run for play, if you want to run them head to head with the best out there you'll have to work on getting some rules changes that will allow the little guys to get their craftsmanship on the track.

 

 

 

I really have to take exception to this statement, Jesse.   USRA approval does not have the importance it once had.

 

Mike Swiss has already offered to try out your arms with his local racers.   The ball is in your court.

Wind some 12 arms and let his guys try them out. See if there is any demand for your stuff.

 

If they are good AND you can supply more,  the ISRA  series guys in Chicago might be willing to give them a try.

If you can put your arms on the wall  and meet the demand in the two raceways that run the series, you're "commercially available", at least for that series.   

 

Again, the ball is in your court.

 

Bill

[MSwiss]

Absolute bullsh*t, that it's a manufacturer's conspiracy.

Restricted/armatures, with a tag, have never been allowed to be wound by private racers.

[wbugenis]

Absolute bullsh*t, that it's a manufacturer's conspiracy.

Restricted/armatures, with a tag, have never been allowed to be wound by private racers.

 

Not exactly "never".    Remember Monty Ohren  got himself USRA approval.

 

The only difference between Monty and a "private racer" is a BOW header card

[Ben Morrow]

 Hope I've not caused problems here!

[MSwiss]

Not exactly "never".    Remember Monty Ohren  got himself USRA approval.
 
The only difference between Monty and a "private racer" is a BOW header card

I've already cited in another thread, why approving someone, with even less production capacity than Monty, would be insanity.

[Jesse Gonzales]

Not trying to get anyone's undies in a bunch here, would like to send some arms with a JG12 or JG27 to some users to try, assuming someone will allow them to compete against the factory stuff.

 

Ok so who made it a requirement to have to have 500 units on hand with three distributors? in any case that is a bit ridiculous to require on a startup winder, I'm not RJR or Daddy Warbucks to go out and invest $100K or more on an operation to still get whacked on the track because I don't have a comm that will allow my arms to be run B__s to the wall without grenading like anyone short of Kofords would.

 

Bill I don't think at this point with all the look what Monty couldn't do crap trying to keep anyone from challenging the status quo obliges me to do anything.

 

Jess

[havlicek]

Jess, if winding arms is what you want to do...then winding arms is what you should do.  There really is nothing else to consider when you realize that at least *some* of them can and will be raced against the armatures of established arm manufacturers.  Then again, even the possibility (*whether remote or not) of them being run in sanctioned events shouldn't be a determining factor the way I see it.  Build some, get them out there and see what happens.  Maybe make some changes and get a few more out there.  They *can* be raced under certain circumstances, so make some aimed at wherever they *might* be raced...OR...for now, just make some that people will run.  You CAN ask around here for ideas about what to wind that would interest people.

[Phil Smith]

 

 

Hey Dallas,

 

There was one last week on ebay, Had a crack in the plastic box top (Who cares, I want the tools). I offered 50 bucks + shipping. Seller turned me down. I would have jumped on your deal too! Glad you found yours.

 

Ben, I saw that. That was new and nicer than mine. The new one had 3 clamps in different sizes. Mine has 2, that don't seem to really fit anything. But that's OK. I got a friend to mill out one to fit Pittman DC 85 arms. That's covers DC85s. Anything smaller I'll shim the clamp with masking tape. I got everything covered.

 

I'm just going to play around with old stuff. Pittman, KTM and 36D arms for my own use. I don't have any interest in cranking out arms for sale. That's too much like work!

[Phil Smith]

 Hope I've not caused problems here!

 

You didn't. This is a carryover from another thread.

[Jesse Gonzales]

All, Mike and I have worked this out and it's all cool. I fell a while back and tweaked my titanium hip and have not felt like doing much. I still have plans to get some arms out there though. I will most Likely use the old Jeff Gilbert and Monty Ohren name when they were teens of "J & M" if no one owns the rights to it as both of them are dead. If there is an objection I'll come up with something.

 

Jess Gonzales