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[GT40]

The Toytech bodies are available from Eagle Distributing.

[Mike Patterson]

First of all thanks to whoever for moving my post to the correct forum. I'll try to do better in the future. TSR, thanks for the info. I found that issue of R&T, and the one pictured in there was a '71! My mistake. In my next life, I'm going to have more memory installed.

Mike Patterson

[TSR]

Mike,

It is my pleasure. I was blessed to be present at many of those races, so I know the hardware quite well and it is relatively tough to get one by me.

The 312P is a beautiful car, but not truly in the spirit of what we (well, the guys in SoCal anyway) were looking for.

[Mike Patterson]

Hey, I've got another question about bodies. How is the rear spoiler supposed to be attached? Are you supposed to leave a lip at the rear of the body, and fasten the spoiler to that, or, is it OK to cut out the back of the body, and attach the spoiler to the underside of it? I assume (something I should NEVER do!) that double-sided tape is the preferred method of attachment (no staples?).

Mike Patterson

[Ron Hershman]

You can cut out the entire rear of the body and mount the rear spoiler as you like. Most double stick and staple it on, just to be safe.

[Mike Patterson]

Thanks, Ron. I'll have to see if I can find my trusty Swingline Tot 50!

Mike

[TSR]

Mike,

I personally use Pro-Weld to stick the spoiler on. The only time I did not, the spoiler parted with the car in a nasty on-track incident.

By any means, do NOT use "crazy glue". That will destroy the Lexan by making it brittle.

[Dave Reed]

I have a question on bodies.

I have over 85 new old stock Booth, Lancer, and Champion bodies that I would like to run but even with the IRRA list I can't tell the ones that would be legal.

Just a few examples: A Champion open cockpit Ferrari with what looks like A 11 WATERS mark in the cockpit, what is it? Also have three different Booth Ferrari P4 coupes, two look very much alike but one is labled as a Dynamic 4" wb and is slightly smaller and highly detailed.

Would any of the Booth bodies be legal as most were backpours of old bodies? I could buy new bodies, but some of the new ones just don't look as good as the old ones.

[Noose]

The body list is going to be updated very soon showing pictures of the bodies. That might help you. It sounds like you have bodies that are within the spirit of the rules but an official answer will be provided to you.

[Dave Reed]

Thanks, Joe...

Would like to run the Champion Ferrari in open cockpit if possible. Anyone know what series# the WATERS 11 body is? Maybe a 612... hope... hope!

[Ron Hershman]

The Champion "Waters/Bloom" open 612 Ferrari is on the IRRA approved body list.

[Noose]

Yes, it is. If you look at the draft of the list with the pics I did one for Brian McPherson.

[Dave Reed]

Thanks, Ron and Joe, for the Info. That's what I wanted to hear.

The body only has Waters 11 on the clear plastic over the cockpit so I didn't know what it was. Thanks again...

Dave

[slotbaker]

If it looks like this;



Then the 11 are actually the tops of lower case db (for Dave Bloom) with the bottom of the letters below "WATERS".

Which means that is probably a genuine Champion body.

[Dave Reed]

Yeah, Steve... that's it, I can see the db in your photo. Thanks...

Dave

[Noose]

Thanks, Ron and Joe, for the Info. That's what I wanted to hear.

The body only has Waters 11 on the clear plastic over the cockpit so I didn't know what it was. Thanks again...

This is the one and this will be the photo in the new updated body listing:

[MantaRay]

TSR,

I saw in this article that the 312P was raced in a Can-Am in 1969 at Bridgehampton

Can-Am Bridgehampton

[Noose]

Ray,

It says it was a Coupe. IRRA requires Open Cockpit for Can-Am class.

[slotcarone]

Interesting report. Look at the first three finishers - three laps ahead of the next place finisher, those guys were flying!!! I was at that race - that track is almost three miles in length!!!

[MantaRay]

In the spirit of things, I stand corrected.

[Ron Hershman]

And HERE is a link to a picture of that 312P coupe at Bridgehampton.

[Larry Mattingly]

In the spirit of things, I stand corrected.

LM

[Noose]

Or spiritually he correctly stands.

[SlowBeas]

Re: gearing...

The rules don't specify that you must use 48 pitch gears, as opposed to 64 or 72 pitch. I'll admit that I was not doing this type of racing back in the heyday of slots, but I sense that some folks believe we should only use 48 pitch. I assume that's to stay consistent with the old days.

I'd be curious to know if there are serious objections to my using 64-pitch gears. I think you can achieve many more ratio options using 64-pitch.

If using 64-pitch is acceptable, I wonder if someone adept at creating motor brackets would be interested in making one where the rear axle holes are not as far from the motor to accommodate the smaller gear. As it is, you must leave the pinion on the very tip of the shaft in order to get any kind of mesh.

Is this an acceptable idea?

Beas

[Ron Hershman]

48 pitch is not the only gear you can run. Most run 48 pitch due to them being widely available and a number of pinion sizes and crown gears are readily available.

64 pitch gears are allowed. They are not popular, as the smallest crown gear at this time is 46 teeth. A 46 tooth crown gear is very hard to get through tech unless one runs a tad taller tires or turns down the outside diameter of the gear. 47 and larger won't clear at tech. Even with a new style motor bracket, some manufacturer would have to produce 45, 44, 43, 42, and whatever other sizes that might work. No one has stepped forward yet.

72 pitch would be allowed... except no one makes 72 pitch crown gears.