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#1 dc-65x

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 11:02 AM

"NorCal V-town Rumble"
In Memory of Gene Husting - Drag Proxy.

Location: Eddies' Slot Car World, Vallejo CA
Date: September 13th, 2014
Doors open at noon, 1st race at 2 p.m.
Fees: $5.00 per entries - (Entry fee paid to track owner)
Track: 1/4 mile. Power 16.2 volts. 1 cap.
No glue on track and house controller will be used

QUESTIONS:

Any questions feel free to PM “DVan” or post on here.

Link to this proxy event page on Bracket 500:

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SHIPPING:

All costs to be paid by the sender. Make sure to package your car/s safely and have a return address so we can send them back.

More sign up and Shipping information coming soon!

GENERAL RULES:

 

Note: These are based on rules from 1963, found in a June 1963 Model Car Science Magazine. Some classes have been combined to keep it simple.

 

All entries to be powered by "open frame" or "padlock style" motors. Bonner motors okay.

Stock type period correct motor magnets only.

 

Motor examples:

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anotherexampleofanopenframemotor800x600.

 

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No functional wheelie bars.

All four wheels must be able to roll and touch the track when the car is sitting on a test block.

No vacuform bodies other than for D-Dragster class.

Minimum tire size is 1".

Driver figure required (at least torso and head). Dragsters could have just driver head.

Roll bars on open cars required.

Maximum tread width is 3 1/4".

Period looking cars are encouraged. This is for fun. We are not going to freak out if your car has a jet flag because this is all that you have, for example.

CLASSES:

S-Stock

1/24th and 1/25th scale. Stock or mildly customized and must run full street equipment. No re-working of wheel openings other than mild trimming of front or rear areas where body curls inward. American production cars 1965 and older.

Example is the red 1962 Pontiac:

 

Pontiac1800x450.jpg

 

 

G-Gas

 

1/24th and 1/25th scale. American production cars 1965 and older. Cars must have at least one bumper. Fenders could be trimmed to clear tires. Cars to retain headlights and tail lights.

Examples are the Falcon, black Chevy and the blue Willys:

 

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SC-Sports Car

1/24th and 1/25th scale. 1965 and older production sports cars and specials like Scarabs are allowed.

Example is the Red Cobra:

 

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A-Altered

 

1/24th and 1/25th scale. Coupes or sedans or roadsters 1965 and older. Cars may be chopped , channeled or sectioned. Fenders are optional. Plastic engine detail encouraged.

Example is the green Hot Rod:

 

HotRodKemtron3800x450.jpg

 

D-Dragster

1/24th and 1/25th scale. Entries must have some form of body around the driver's cockpit. Fenders optional.

Example is the silver dragster:

 

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1/32 Scale Dragster Class

Entries must have some form of body around the driver's cockpit. Fenders optional.

1/32 Scale Other Than Dragsters

Non-dragster cars 1965 and older.

 

Special thanks to Rodney for the pictures of his event entries to illustrate the different classes!

 

Further event information will be added here as it becomes available.


 


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 04:44 PM

The name of the event has been changed, apologies have been made and now it's time to build and race some fun vintage drag cars. I've cleaned up the thread so we get on to fun the stuff :)


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:17 PM

Is there some way we can call the races  "East Coast and West Coast"  or  "Spring and Fall" or something and keep everyone satisfied?? It could almost be an ongoing series if it got a little traction (no pun intended). If not, that's OK too, I'm just tossing stuff out.

 

It might raise some issues if we wanted a single set of rules. I like very simple rules, because you just can't run to the track to get this stuff.I also like the body-based classes because the cars look very nice. I do know that we might be able to agree on something if we keep it simple and reasonable.

 

An example is that it might be tough to get some of my cars down to 3" width because of the particular rims, tires,gears and axles that I have on hand. I am done hunting down crap on Ebay, thank you.

 

Anyway, this is just my .02. I hope to make it over to Eddie's if I don't have any conflicts.


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 10:14 PM

Not definite but maybe able to accelerate a Dragster build in time :laugh2: Will have to talk to the design g33ks ! & consult the spares situation.

Are resin shells ok?

Agree with David on the simple rules side of things...

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 10:17 PM

Are resin shells ok?

 

You bet!


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 10:22 PM

 
You bet!


Cool beans :) Got a few to choose from . Will see if the g33ks get something going.

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 08:38 AM

Dvan, no mention of wheels and tires. I am assuming that you want all period-correct stuff?? 


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Posted 02 July 2014 - 09:11 AM

Good question David .. :good:

Will the classes be racing separately or all against all?

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 11:44 AM

BoxerDog. To answer your question, we realy, realy encourage vintage wheels and tires, but if you or other racers don't have some at hand, then modern wheels and tires will be allowed. But I would realy prefer seeing original equipment.

 

SlotStox53: The plan is to run cars in each of their classes, I'm working on finding some kind of trophy, if I do, then we might have a run off (bracket race) of each class winner. Not set in stone, will keep racers updated if I can pull it.

What I will use is the ET from the final run in each class to set for the bracket race to get an overall winner. (If we do that)

 

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:14 PM

I'm using urethane vintage repop K&B tires on my Cobra entry (the red Cobra pictured in the race announcement above) and repop vintage Cox Firestones on my unfinished Corba entry below:
 
KingCobra51.jpg

They, and many other vintage repop tires are available here:

 

Paul's Slot Car Shop

 

Repop vintage Russkit set screw and other vintage wheels, tires and parts are available here:

 

Electric Dreams

 

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:29 PM

Any word as to what works better on the strip @ Eddies? Or is it pretty much equal between vintage sponge & urethanes?

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:52 PM

SlotStox, the track will be cleaned, no glue except for the shut down.

We've had no problems running old tires. I don't think the material

for the tires will make much of a difference.

 

 

I will check with a few racers tonight and get back to you in the morning.

 

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 02:45 PM

I spoke with Rodney about the "cleaned track" last night. He said the surface was similar to a spray glued track. He also said that the urethane and vintage sponge tires like "Germans" worked fine.


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Posted 02 July 2014 - 03:00 PM

Awesome, thanks :good: Think I've got some Germans somewhere, if not can get some or urethanes.

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 04:37 PM

The event "Cheesy Poster", sorry to say my paint program ran out of color ink.... :wacko2:

 

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 06:27 PM

Thanks, Dvan wish. I had this one...

 

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 06:40 PM

Wow David that is one sweet rail! ! Just some random picture or do you know of it?

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 09:00 PM

BoxerDog, cool rail, somewhere's on my site I have pics of the original rails some of the old timers ran. That looks like an old timer for sure. Last year I spoke with Manny Maldinado, he had the fastest rail at some I think 65-6 meet, he made his rails out of Magnesium, it sure looks good. He still has it after all these years.

(This is not an advertisement for my site), jus sayin.....

 

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:50 AM

Rule Change:

 

maximum tread width 3-1/4"

 

Why? Because Rodney measured the width of various standard early Ford coupe and roadster models he has and with 1/2" wide tires the track comes out wider than 3".

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:02 AM

Thanks, that simplifies things a lot.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:25 AM

I would suggest a sign-up sheet by class.

 

My "Rods and Rails" spec 'Valiant Ghost' is not legal for this event.

I am considering a hard body build based on car count entries per class.

 

DVan is that 62 Pontiac a legal padlock car ?

... I want come and put a whoopin' on the whole S-Stock class...LOL 


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:40 AM

Dvan, those of us who want to sign up and just bring our stuff over the day of the race?? Is this going to be OK??

 

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 12:04 PM

Sounds like I may see you on the strip then Bob :D

The VeeDub is most definitely not legal either so like you contemplating a hard body build ... Trying to decide what class as I can't possibly hope to build one for all the classes :laugh2:

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 12:32 PM

Gator Bob, DC-65X will set up a sign up page for this event, we just wanted to make sure that there was enough interest.

 

DVan is that 62 Pontiac a legal padlock car ?

... I want come and put a whoopin' on the whole S-Stock class...LOL

 

Gator Bob, yes it is...

 

 

Dvan, those of us who want to sign up and just bring our stuff over the day of the race?? Is this going to be OK??

dc

 

BoxerDog yes it is. and you can pay for your entries at the track.

 

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 09:02 PM

Dvan, thanks, this is very considerate.


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:01 PM

One other thing I'd like to propose...I'm not a drag racer, but my understanding is that you don't want the front wheels touching at a "modern" dragstrip that uses glue for shutdown because it can flip the car. Anyone know  anything about this??? I have been setting them .063 high or so. 


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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:51 PM

BoxerDog, this was dicussed and yes the front wheels have to touch the tech board, these cars are too heavy and slow that they just roll in the shut down area. The glue will be wiped off after they get picked up from the shut down area.

 

 

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:34 PM

Gator Bob here's a picture of the underside of that Pontiac.

 

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 06:14 PM

Nice Kemtron chassis DVan :good:

Like how you did the body mounting brackets.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 09:56 PM

SlotStox not mine, it's a Rodney built car... I'm not that good at this stuff.. :D

 

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:46 AM

Maybe these parts will help?

 

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:17 AM

Very nice Rick!!! Is that brass or ally? Can't quite tell with the angle.

Looks like it would help a lot :good:

What's the length of the rail?

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:23 AM

It's aluminum. About 8 1/2" long. There are more parts coming for this project and will post them all soon in The Parts Counter....


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:42 AM

Excellent news Rick :D look forward to seeing them :good:

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 09:50 PM

So how are these builds coming along?

How many are going to sign up for this race.

 

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 08:54 AM

Dvan, I plan on signing up for sure. I'm not certain how many cars yet. One "new build" isn't finished, and one of the cars that went to Florida is still in pieces.


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Posted 11 July 2014 - 09:23 AM

I plan on signing up DVan :good:

Florida car isn't legal for this race so a new build is on the design board.

[Procrastination] Although no construction has begun yet.. :laugh2:

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 09:36 AM

I have 2 cars and I hope to have a few more.


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Posted 11 July 2014 - 01:16 PM

Here are a few pcitures for insperation...

 

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Rodney built this using some of the parts from his spare box of stuff.

 

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Johnny Mac bought a box full of 60s drag racing stuff in the Valley...

 

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Another car Rodney build in 3 easy steps. Step 1

 

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Step 2

 

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Step 3, realy nice acr up close....

 

 

My build so far....

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BoxerDog good to hear you're working on your builds...

 

SlotStox, maybe some of these new pictures might inspire you....

 

DC-65x sounds good, can't wait to see these cars..

 

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 01:25 PM

Thanks for the inspiration, have got some bits to build with , just finishing off 2 cars for the Rod & Custom event happening on the 19th !! :shok: :laugh2:

Once the cars are in the mail can start looking at a Dragster. . Love that yellow one by Rodney with that proper chassis in brass :heart: :D definitely some inspiration with that one :good:

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 02:13 PM

SlotStox. event on the 19th, can you tell me more?

 

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 02:45 PM

Hi DVan,

 

Here's the low down on the event and on the 1966 R&C Series in general:

 

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 04:05 PM

DC-65x  thanks for the info..

 

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 06:55 PM

Is there a final date for signups?? If so, please sign me up for 5 cars. Then I can sort out the mess I have. 


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 01:49 PM

BoxerDog, no date as of yet for sign-up, will work on that with the others...

 

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 10:09 PM

Looks like sign up will close on the last week of August, and cars will need to be in by Sept. 10th, 2014

 

If you want to ship your car, please PM me and I will send you the address where to ship.

Remember all costs are the senders responsibily with return shipping cost.

Please make sure your car is safely packed and it will be returned to you the same way it's recieved.

 

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 10:41 PM

Dvan, just want to make sure if we show up with our cars on race day, that we can run them. Attached is a roadster under construction!!

 

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:14 AM

BoxerDog. Yes if you show up with your cars you can run them on that day.

 

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:56 PM

Here's a possible starting point for an entry :good:

 

With the moderately lowered roof :laugh2: I take it this would be entering the Altered class?

 

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 08:22 AM

Perfect!!!


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