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#1 dc-65x

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 01:17 PM

In hindsight, I should have posted this thread first.  :wacko2:  But I got so caught up in posting all the documentation about the first 6 Model Car Science - USRA Road Races from January through June 1969 I just couldn’t stop! :crazy:

 

I stopped with the 6th race (that preceded the Westerns States Championship) because the rest of the races really evolved into McLaren Mk8 bodies with wrap around "NCC air-control" and cutting down Mura 16D's into essentially a C-can motor.

 

Now I like these cars too but I'm going to focus on the earlier cars.
 
What happened was, I haven’t built an anglewinder slot car in so long I was afraid I’d forgotten how! But I also haven’t been in the mood to build something that only barely resembles a “real” car... what to do? :unknw:
 
When I ran across the pictures of the series my interest peaked. The cars looked pretty good for state of the art Pro race cars. I started to compile information about the series and the more I researched the better I liked what I saw. :sun_bespectacled:
 
The 1969 MCS - USRA series had Sports Cars, GT, GP and Stock Cars. It used a wide variety of bodies many of which are currently available from TrueScale. Most of the bodies shown in the 1969 Auto World Catalog could have been used by entrants in the series.
 
Diaplanes and spoilers didn’t show up until the end of the series. The first 3 races MAY have been completely free of “air control”. The concours cars were not so afflicted. Heck they even had my beloved wheel inserts! :laugh2:
 
Some may argue that the GP cars don’t look right, “they’re too fat!” Well, yes they are fat, they’re covering up an anglewinder! But they’re GP cars and what a blast they are to build. There are a half dozen or more different GP bodies currently available with lots of cool engine details.
 
This series also had an interesting evolution of the anglewinder chassis. Starting with mostly brass “zillion rail” frames with motor boxes and plumbers mounted on the main rails behind the front axle. They progressed all the way to the first versions of Bob Emott’s 2-rail per side, plumber on the arm chassis called by Mike Morrissey, “a foolproof chassis design”.
 
The motors also evolved. There was the Mura A-can (including an occasional cut down version), the first Mura B-cans as their Pro mentors tried to get them working. A B-motor even won the 6th race!   :shok:  The Champion 525 and later on the Orange Picker were also available and talked about (if not used) in the race reports.
 
So, I’m going to build a few cars that fit, as best as I can, into the spirit of the different races. I’m going enjoy building them to be as close to the way “they were built” as I can. It’s fun seeing how period cars might have performed back in the day. There should be an interesting evolution of performance between the 1st and 2nd Sports and GT cars and the ones run in the 5th and 6th races. Not to mention building and running the wild GP cars!
 
In order to check out their performance I’ll be shipping the cars down to Rodney to try out on Eddie’s blue King. Rodney and Steve Okeefe might also build a few.
 
My first car is going to be a GT from race number 2. :dance3:
 
Onward!


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 01:54 PM

Nothing wrong in getting carried away Rick! Especially over these particular cars, so easy to get caught up reading the race reports & checking out the car designs. :D

Must have read through them all several times as I've been bitten by the 1969 USRA series bug. :laugh2:

Look forward to seeing what you come up with Rick and looking at putting one or two together myself. :good:

Those GP cars are most interesting, nothing wrong with them being a little wide, think they look cool.

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:13 PM

I had one of those Emott wide F1s and it now resides in the LASCM. The Honda from TrueScale was the hot body for it.
 
So, for sports cars could you run a real one from then? Yanno, like this one?
 
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:20 PM

Beautiful, Noose. But since most people don't have a "real one" we'll just have to have some fun and build our own. :victory:

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:30 PM

I wouldn't let that one out my sight anyway. LOL.

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:47 PM

I can't blame you for that!  :D :good:


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 08:52 PM

Joe,

 

Do you happen to know the build date for this one?  I'm thinking July-ish.  I see "super low CG" construction and 1/8" axles.

 

The Dallas Pro-Am, where Bob and Jerry Brady had (but didn't get to run) the first cars with 3/32" axles, was on July 4th, 1969.

 

I also see full cutout side pans.  The beautiful Nutley "step cut-out" pans came later.  :D


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 07:31 AM

 It does have 1/8" axles and the last body I remember running on it was the Champion / Waters McLaren.  According to Tony I would have run it at the Cobra Mura race at Buzzarama.(Memorial Weekend) of 1969.


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