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#1 Zippity

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 03:53 PM






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Posted 04 August 2014 - 07:20 PM

IIRC, "Thee" Mike Swiss has already campaigned a racing series based around 3D printed chassis.

I have been wrong before.

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 07:47 PM

Slot.it is selling 3d chassis in partnership with Sgapways

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 08:29 PM

There are new desktop 3D printers and scanners that are bringing this stuff into the realm of possibility because of much better pricing.  Having a 3D scanner makes the whole process dead-easy because you don't need to do 3D CAD.  The real deal though is in the various powders that the systems use, and the best, most durable and heat resistant powders are still used in the expensive printers.  Right now though, I believe you can get a 3D scanner for under a grand, and the printers for not THAT much more...maybe two grand or so.

 

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 08:53 PM

Think the one Zippity linked to is one that Micromark are starting to sell for around $700 DIY construction set !

 

This uses the more basic spool of  thermal extruded rod (plastic string) but it's a full on 3D printer for under a grand :D Time to start saving John , your own range of 3D printed replacement endbells :dance3:

 

As Dennis mentioned Slot it have done 3D printed chassis in their own Shapeways store to take a Slot it motor pod etc . There's I think 3 chassis that fit a few of the Carrera DTM cars..



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 09:02 PM

The material isn't good enough (as far as I know) for end bells because of heat Paul....at least yet :)

 

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 09:06 PM

The material isn't good enough (as far as I know) for end bells because of heat Paul....at least yet :)

 

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I know , remember this very discussion a little while a go ,but with prices coming down you never know what's round the corner John :) One can hope you can get started on some 3D printing at some point :D

 

Now all you need is to start having your own motor cans formed :D :laugh2:



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:52 AM

Now all you need is to start having your own motor cans formed  :D  :laugh2:

 
Nah, Paul. There's plenty of 'em out there already.  

 

I still DO think though that the one-piece "drawn" ones are better than the folded/welded ones (much as I love the Muras) and the Falcon/TSRF type (as well as all the cheap modern Mabuchis!) are a great example.

 

On endbells, even 3D printing would not be as easy as say printing a little statue, because both the inside and the outside need to be spot on... as well as having to be done out of a heat resistant material. I doubt very seriously that I'll ever be doing any of this, but someone, somewhere just might.
 
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Posted 05 August 2014 - 08:17 AM

It already is...

Some of you guys might remember this THREAD.

I've been printing my own slot and R/C components for several years on a hi-res polyjet style printer. Up until recently there was no way I could offer anything I printed at a reasonable price, but thanks to printing services like Shapways and all the small DIY personal 3D printers it's becoming very affordable for the hobbyist.

This chassis (and a few others) will be available very soon through Shapways, I'm just making some final tweaks :) . The finished car should weigh approx 100 grams and the material is pretty durable. More details to come...

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This is a 3D printed 1/10 R/C off-road chassis I've raced successfully several times over the last couple years. No failures and the weight is the same as the factory ABS molded piece.

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 08:35 AM

I have been selling 3D printed chassis from my Shapeways shop for a couple of years now.
 
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They are slightly modified and improved copies of the discontinued German White Point chassis.
 
The material is pretty strong and durable.
 
More pics, etc. HERE.
 
Please note that 3D printing is done is different ways, depending on material etc. My chassis are build up in a powder bath by a laser or something similar, while most available 3D printers are using nylon filament.
 
Prices for printers are coming down, so it's getting more and more interesting :-) but you still have to master 3D software to be able to use it properly. :-(
 
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Posted 05 August 2014 - 04:57 PM

Exactly. The only system usable for chassis and other plastic parts is the powder system. FDM created parts melt a a very low temperature due to the process, which involves heating a plastic filament to the point it becomes sticky and will adhere to the already applied layers.

The system that Steve uses is the powder system, and the machine is very expensive.

By the way, Steve is a true whiz kid at designing chassis, and also created the master for Mike Swiss of the McLaren F1 body Chicagoland sells.
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Posted 17 November 2014 - 09:16 AM

I just bought my first 3D chassis for a Fly Porsche 908.

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 01:52 PM

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 03:29 PM

Mr. HP,

 

That red chassis is a very elegant and professional design.

 

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 03:33 PM

Thanks for the compliment!
 
I finally have that one and a couple others available on Shapeways if anybody is interested!
 
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Posted 03 February 2015 - 05:48 PM

How do they handle?



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Posted 03 February 2015 - 09:54 PM

Very well.

Both the 4” and 4.5” chassis’ have tuning features to adjust the amount of pan movement and the center section has provisions to add two pieces of .047” piano wire to add rigidity if needed.

The assembled car will weigh approx. 95-100 grams (depending on choice of motor and body), for bumpy or low traction conditions there are optional 3D printed metal tuning weights.

The hot rod chassis handles like a ’34 Ford, but is still fun to drive.

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 10:01 PM

Steve is a real Merlin! Very cool.
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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:58 AM

Here's a short video of Mike Swiss hot-lapping Steve Grider's new 3d chassis at Chicagoland. Looks like it handles pretty darn well!

 


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Posted 08 February 2015 - 10:05 AM

Thanks for sharing that Greg!
 
Here's a slow-motion vid of the car coming up the donut and onto the straight... 
 

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 11:11 AM

Got a firsthand look at these cars yesterday and the only words to describe them are "Uber Cool".

Hope they have a place in the market.


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Posted 08 February 2015 - 11:42 AM

You are quite right, Bernie!

Great work, Steve.


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Posted 08 February 2015 - 05:32 PM

Mike was able to get into the low 5s last night, which is close to Retro Can-Am times.

I also drove the car and found it very forgiving, a plus for me. It was particularly good in the donut.

I would really like to see a spec class with these, especially with Trans-Am bodies.
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Posted 08 February 2015 - 10:38 PM

Cool vid. Looks so wrong the direction the car travels in. It might be we are at the bottom of the world but I have noticed you guys seem to run the opposite way than we do.

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 06:42 AM

We run either right to left or left to right, what direction do you guys run?  :)  :D  :tease: 

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 09:41 AM

Looks so wrong the direction the car travels in. It might be we are at the bottom of the world but I have noticed you guys seem to run the opposite way than we do.


I've never seen or heard of anyone who normally runs a King track in the clockwise direction, Trevor, except perhaps as a "novelty" race.

Is there a raceway that runs a King that way where you are?

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 10:40 AM

Before Raceworld Speedway in La Grange, GA, closed we used to have a monthly race with the JK C7 Indy/F1 cars where we would run reverse on their orange track.

It was an absolute hoot once you got used to it. You could easily punch the doughnut on every lane except red and white. Not always possible in the normal direction. I thing reverse on a King would be fun as well.

And technically the correct direction for F1 races, right?
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Posted 09 February 2015 - 11:08 AM

And technically the correct direction for F1 races, right?


If it is true that F1 races are always run clockwise, then I've learned something today.

Is that a fact?

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 12:26 PM

I'm not an F1 expert of any sort. They were run clockwise at Indy when they raced there I believe. Anyway.

 

What was the set-up of the car Swiss was driving in the video?

1. Torsion bars used, Y/N?

2. Tuning weight used, Y/N?

3. Rear tire size, .813"/.820"?

4. Rear tires Mfg/type?

 

Thanks.

 

I will have to get one of these. Looks like fun.


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Posted 09 February 2015 - 12:56 PM

Setup: rapid_slot 888sr at Chicagoland Raceway 2/7/15

 

Chassis:

Pan movement: Full

Torsion rods: Yes - .047”

Tuning weight: Yes – 24 grams (total car weight 120 grams)

 

Components:

Rear Tires: JK .820" - JK-8713E

Front Tires: JK .750" x .225  - JK-8746AF

Motor: JK Retro Hawk

Gearing: 9/28

 

I will be offering some additional tuning weight options. The 24 gram weight helped but it did make the car feel too heavy for the King track (on the flat track the car was awesome at that weight).

 

See the attached file for assembly diagram and component list.

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This is the car from the video...

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 01:23 PM

Steve,

 

Thanks for the info. Looks like a perfect spec class to replace FCR. Technology is awesome.


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Posted 09 February 2015 - 02:19 PM

There are NO King tracks in New Zealand :(

 

Formula One races are conducted on both clockwise and anti-clockwise circuits - the majority are run clockwise. See here.



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Posted 09 February 2015 - 02:36 PM

I've never seen or heard of anyone who normally runs a King track in the clockwise direction, Trevor, except perhaps as a "novelty" race.

Is there a raceway that runs a King that way where you are?

 

No King tracks here. As far as I know all the tracks around here race in a clockwise direction (not that I've raced on many).

 

If you look at the link below (which hasn't been updated for a long time) will will see the type of tracks we use. Ron (Zippity) is from the Wellington club. With the exception of the Christchurch club (new track not shown - which has one as far as I know) we  generally don't use banks either. 

 

http://www.nzsca.co....ew.htm#Tauranga



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Posted 09 February 2015 - 02:47 PM

I think this qualifies as excessive thread drift.

Let's get back to the subject of 3D printing.

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 03:47 PM

I think JK better forget about any new metal chassis in the future. This is the future fer sure!


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Posted 09 February 2015 - 04:41 PM

IMHO there is a place for both types of cars. Us old schoolers will never change completely to plastic cars.

 

I run with a group that runs mostly 1/32 home set cars from Slot.it, Scalextric, Ninco, and such. But I also run 1/24 on a commercial track. Neither will ever replace the other for me.

 

This new chassis certainly has a place in commercial racing as a spec chassis. It is easy to set up and does not require any soldering to assemble. And with further development it might become a viable alternative for Retro Can-Am.

 

Certainly, a "tunnel tub" type chassis is possible with this method of construction. I can tell you that the hot rod class we used to run at Chicagoland was a hoot, and Steve offers a chassis to fit that body, which could be another choice for a spec class.

 

I am really anxious to see where this technology leads. 



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Posted 09 February 2015 - 08:42 PM

I love the looks of the chassis and I like the way it handles. I think it's going to be a success.


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 09:25 AM

Thank you!
 
I'm glad my car is being so well received. I've put in a fair amount of design and development work and Im hopeful that the slot racing community will appreciate the chassis for its performance value and simplicity.
 
I dont feel 3D printed cars are going to replace stamped, brass and wire cars. Its just a new platform that might appeal to a new crop of racers.
 
In the near future I envision racers accessing files from slot car raceways, manufacturers, and distributors (for a small fee) and printing out components on their own personal 3D printer. 

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 01:08 PM

Yes, wouldn't that be great. I would be keen to use them.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 02:00 PM

Everything looks fast when you do videos of slotcars. What were the lap times??? Looks like a good idea though.



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Posted 10 February 2015 - 02:02 PM

low 5's, I'm not sure what the track voltage was set at.


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 03:05 PM

With the Javelin I drove, 5.5, but on only 12V.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 03:24 PM

Would you know what times a turbo flex would do with the same type of motor



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Posted 10 February 2015 - 03:46 PM

Hard to say for sure, as I've never run that Javelin body before, but I would have to guess very similar, which is impressive considering it's an inline vs. an anglewinder.

I was pushing the car real hard, and it was behaving very predictable.

Note, this was with the optional weight installed.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:03 PM

With the Javelin I drove, 5.5, but on only 12V.

 

I recall a 5.4 when you hot lapped the Javelin.

 

With Dave Crevie as my witness I got the orange car with the Ferrari body into the 5.2-5.3 range on blue lane before changing the chassis setup to get it work on the flat track. Don't ask what my flat track times were, my driving was so rusty I doubt they're even close to what they should have been. 


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:32 PM

I am would bet if you put a CanAm body on it with Kelly Retro's and ran on 13.2V that thing would be well into  the 4's easy... Maybe Sunday?? ^_^


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 05:03 PM

Waaay cool. I'm sorry that I missed the demonstration.
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Posted 10 February 2015 - 05:25 PM

The chassis with the Red Fox Ferrari 330 body on did get low 5s. Steve is a much better hand on the king track

than I. I have ordered a chassis and my priority will be to tune it for the flat track, which is my preferred venue.

I will keep everyone up to date on how that works out.



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Posted 10 February 2015 - 09:37 PM

Do they take the normal type of lexen body like something that would fit onto a 4" turbo flex cassis



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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:43 PM

Do they take the normal type of lexen body like something that would fit onto a 4" turbo flex cassis


Do they take the normal type of lexen body like something that would fit onto a 4" turbo flex cassis

Yes any lexan body works
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