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#1 FVracer

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 07:55 PM

I would like some recommendations for a nibbler to be used on brass sheet.

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:04 PM

I think it's luck of the draw.

 

I've tried 4 different ones.

 

The best I ever had was a Radio Shack Chinese model.

 

The worst I ever had was a Radio Shack Chinese model.(same type, just a different one)

 

In the middle was the classic Adel, bought by Manta Ray, at the receptionists desk , at the plant, near Chicago.

 

And the Klein, which IIRC, was easily the most expensive.

 

A piece of advice, avoid the temptation to try to nibble .062" brass with one..

 

It will probably just effect it's ability to do a nice job on .047", and thinner, which it's more suited to do.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:07 PM

None work really well. They bend up the brass and make more work. I tried them all. Dremel is easier to use. Always used them in the 60s but they seemed to cut better back then..

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:15 PM

Tony is right.

They're really only good for roughing out material, without heat, or brass dust.

A good investment is one of these.

 

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:38 PM

 Always used them in the 60s but they seemed to cut better back then..

 

If I used them a lot, I would check if this current.

 

https://www.etsy.com...CFY9ahgod-kEIDg


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:55 PM

That's the one I used to use.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:04 PM

That's the one I used to use.
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Wow, I wonder how they wound up with it.

Scott Bader should buy it for the museum, to put next to Bob Emott's Ungar, and Joe Neumeister's empty Badger Propel can. Lol

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:05 PM

Lol.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:19 PM

I wondered what happened to that can.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:28 PM

I've had an Adel since 1969. I paid $4,95 for it & it has always worked well. I got a Radio Shack nibbler ten years ago when I worked for them. It will cut sheet plastic, not much else. If I was going to do a lot of nibbling, I'd look at the pneumatic nibblers.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:30 PM

I had one of these Adel nibblers I bought in 1967 or 68. It was great! I used it to shape all my 0.32 or 0.47 pans when I was learning how to copy chassis from grainy black and white photos in the Slot Car News. I wish I hadn't given all that gear away.
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Posted 17 October 2016 - 11:39 PM

The Adel Nibbler is still available. I used one back in the 60's and it worked very well for thin brass sheet (.032"). It can cut .062" but only in small pieces rather than the entire blade width. 


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 12:19 AM

The Etsy and Adel pretty much look identical to me.

 

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Adel:

 

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Posted 18 October 2016 - 08:01 AM

Etsy is just a marketplace, apparently similiar to Ebay.

The item for sale is clearly a vintage Adel.

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Posted 18 October 2016 - 08:12 AM

My Adel box from 1969 is identical to the above photo. Yes, I still have it. :)


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 09:36 AM

Etsy is just a marketplace, apparently similiar to Ebay.

The item for sale is clearly a vintage Adel.

 

Well duh. :dash2:  It says Adel right on the box. I didn't look at that. I looked at the pic of the tool.


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 10:56 AM

Tony, your cuts are always so straight and smooth. What disc do you use on the Dremel and can you give a brief description of your process? How do you do inside cuts? Thanks


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 11:00 AM

(sorry - we posted at same time - wasn't trying to steal the show from Tony)

 

Virtually all the notched pans in my vintage builds were done with an Adel

 

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A Dremel with a 409 disc cuts more precise than a nibbler so it's what I use for the first cuts into the pan.

Then I use the Adel to do the rough cutting. Then finish with files.

 

Unless someone has a magic technique or tool I'm unaware of, you can't make the inner cuts with a Dremel or a band saw.


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 12:32 PM

Diana,

I'm guessing Tony has a steady hand, and also might do a little file work at the end.

If you don't feel your hand is that steady, to follow a Sharpie line, on that first Dremel "scribe" cut, you can buy a Dremel drill press stand and lock the tool in place, and use the bed to draw the piece across the spinning 409 disc, like some of us use to cut steel center sections in the '70s and '80s.


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 01:53 PM

Thanks, Mike and Pablo. I'll get to work.


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 02:07 PM

Tony will probably still chime in.

Pablo and I are like the comedian that comes out and warms up the crowd before the star walks out and the show starts. LOL.


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 02:20 PM

http://www.adelnibbler.com/

 

They now sell for $49.95 and replacement blades are $29.95!!!


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 03:16 PM

I use the big thin quick-lock Dremel disks. Save all the small worn-out ones to do small cuts. I have a tool Duffy made me that lets you file at 90 degrees. Basically I do it all old school.

Secret is to always buy new files, they wear out really fast.
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Posted 18 October 2016 - 04:26 PM

Thanks, Tony.
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Posted 18 October 2016 - 06:17 PM

I LOVE those big quick loc dremel discs!! Their much stronger and last a long time.  You can buy a "file acid" that helps sharpen files Tony-- it will help them last!! 


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