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#1 Pablo

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:17 PM

A "tongue-in-cheek" build. (after my Emott build, I could use some levity).  :)

Always start with the body. Here we have a pre-painted yellow ducky.

 

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This is the lightest, smallest, tamest motor I found in my drawers of horrors.  :laugh2:

I have no idea what it is or where I got it, but it looks like a perfect candidate for a play car.

 

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:19 PM

I guess this means I'll actually have to take a bath, rather than a shower. Don't know how long it has been since I've done that... LOL.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:29 PM

Do not worry, the motor will be broken-in beforehand.

 

Wouldn't want you to electrocute yourself with a slot car.  :laugh2:


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 06:23 PM

Up north here, we race rubber ducks like this one on rivers and streams. The races are usually done to benefit charities. 


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 06:47 PM

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Coos Bay and North Bend, OR.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:16 PM

They raced slot cars in North Bend. 


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:41 PM

When I lived in Grants Pass, OR, once a year they would release hundreds of them into the Rogue River from the bridge near the park for rafters, tubers, and swimmers to catch. If I remember right they put money in a lot of them. If they weren't caught they would collect the rest at the salmon ladder down river.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:59 PM

I hope that's a pre-1970 design rubber ducky, otherwise not legal under IRDA (International Rubber Ducky Association rules :)
 
Quack.


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 01:55 PM

A few years ago,(back when I was still working and received NASA bulletins),  NASA spotted one of those big inflatable

rubber duckies from one of their geo satellites and couldn't figure out what it was. Looking down directly from above

you can't tell what it is, so there was some excitement that it might be some kind of Russian or Chinese spy ship. I

found that very amusing, because if I was going to make a spy ship, I certainly would not paint it yellow. Better yet

was the posting the next day, which explained what it was. How did they find out? By reading the local newspaper

from the area where the thing was sighted. These type of events always remind me of the old movie, "The Russians

are coming, the Russians are coming!". "Emergency, emergency! Everybody to get from street!". 



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:19 PM

Planning and parts assembly so far:

-body rough trimmed at it's approx. widest circumference

-8/28 Slot-It gears

-Professor Motor BWA-clone motor bracket with JK 2 mm screws

-3/32 oilite bushings

-Cobra tongue

-JK plastic wheels

 

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:10 PM

I like that gear color to match the body.  :D


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Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:50 PM

OK. So charitable groups have races with those plastic duckys. What is the possibility of a charity ducky slot car

proxy proxy race. I nominate Pablo to chair this event. And Cheater to be vice chair. We need some rules, gentlemen.



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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:04 PM

Let me get this one built first :laugh2:

 

Went to the refigerator to get a couple donuts and found a pair of new JK IRRA®-type fronts, 3/32" X .750" X .375".

Perfect rears, and I just saved myself some time :D


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Posted 20 June 2017 - 03:41 PM

In Germany we have these charity races with the duckys too (we call them "Quitsche Ente" cause of the sound they make when pressing them).

In my home town the Lions Club does organise the races.

 

A few years ago, they announced an open class for the following year and I told my club members. We started planing how to build a real fast Ducky with all our slot racing knowledge :D  :tease: .

Unfortunately, the open class never was realized  :nea:.

 

I'm realy exited about this build, Pablo. Go on!


Schöne Grüße (Kind regards)

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 05:33 PM

I never realized how popular duckies are :dance3:

 

Whatever this motor is, it has good torque and timing. Red wire is positive; rotation is CCW at can end.

With <.750" OD wheels it should pull the 3.5/1 gears no problemo.

 

WB 3.0", GL 3/8", clearances will be about .020" front and .040" rear.

 

Found a vintage coined drop arm, shortened it up, and gave it a little tilt with my Tongue Tweaker.

 

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:50 PM

Front axles are .047" wire so they will flex, and can be bent back in a crash.

.063" brass pin tube body mounts are simple and can be bent as needed to fit perfectly.

Little bit of bracing on the BWA clone bracket. Time for a brillo pad cleaning and assembly

 

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 07:32 PM

Even a ducky deserves good quality wire and a self centering flag.

I found some short lengths of the (now unavailable) Alpha white

 

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 08:56 PM

All that remains is mounting the ducky body.

Drivetrain test results: slow and smooth :good:

 

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 06:11 AM

Don't forget the PABLO quack. OOPPSS! a I meant plaque. :D I know, I'm going to pay for that one. :laugh2:


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Posted 23 June 2017 - 08:46 AM

I won't forget ! I hope it's as good as it's quacked up to be.

If it needs more HP, we can swap to a mini brute type motor :aggressive: :)


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Posted 23 June 2017 - 09:58 AM

...or a rubber band & a prop. :victory:


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Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:58 PM

I went somewhere that had a rubber band once and got bounced out by the prop riator. That might be stretching it a bit. :sarcastic_hand:
If you need a Mini Brute let me know. I'll just put it on the ducks bill. :dash2:


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Posted 23 June 2017 - 07:13 PM

Cheater, your duck is served, Sir :)

 

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Body mounting was a challenge, so forgive the rough and excessive trimming.

I hope to find another so I can make it much better.

 

I added 4 grams of lead up front.

Pin tube mounts are designed to be bendable to fine tune the body stance

 

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Track test this coming Wednesday at Greg Gilbert's track :to_become_senile:

 

 


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Posted 23 June 2017 - 08:24 PM

Looks great Pablo! Should say "CHEATER" somewhere around the rear dumper. OPPS! (B) LOL!!! wonder what it would on the drag strip.


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Posted 23 June 2017 - 10:36 PM

Red, did you see where he put the "Pablo" plaque? Neither did I. :laugh2:


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Posted 24 June 2017 - 10:36 AM

Have your fun, yes I forgot the plaque :dash2: :laugh2:  Good thing I got friends doing Q/A on my work :D

The good news is, I have a WalMart employee searching for a new body as we speak :dance3:


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Posted 24 June 2017 - 02:08 PM

Try Big Lots stores. That's where I got the duckies for a block party a few years ago.



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Posted 24 June 2017 - 02:30 PM

The good news is, I have a WalMart employee searching for a new body as we speak :dance3:

 

Which diet did you tell him to try? :tease:


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Posted 24 June 2017 - 08:20 PM

Thanks for reminding me, guys :good:

 

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:08 AM

Hope it does all it's quacked up to. Last one , honest! :sarcastic_hand:


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Posted 25 June 2017 - 02:32 PM

Found the duckies. This time I got smart - kept the label and bought a spare body in case Cheater tears one up

 

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The kid in the photo looks just like Cheater, eh? :laugh2:

 

I'll save the 6 baby ducks for Bill (Hey Red - get it? - "bill" :)) in case he ever decides to start racing HO :laugh2: :laugh2:

 


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Posted 25 June 2017 - 02:34 PM

Use the ducklings for 1/32nd versions.



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Posted 25 June 2017 - 03:21 PM

A 1 liter soft drink bottle would make a more streamlined vehicle.  Paint it yellow & stick on a pair of craft store googling eyes, nobody will ever know the difference.  :laugh2:


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Posted 25 June 2017 - 03:25 PM

- kept the label and bought a spare body in case Cheater tears one up

 

That's what Duck Tape is for :laugh2:


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Posted 25 June 2017 - 03:38 PM

A 1 liter soft drink bottle would make a more streamlined vehicle.  Paint it yellow & stick on a pair of craft store googling eyes, nobody will ever know the difference.  :laugh2:

Doggonit, I knew the speed-crazed morons would infect my thread sooner or later :laugh2:


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Posted 25 June 2017 - 04:58 PM

A little more sano than the first one. Thick, soft rubber is hard to trim precisely :ambivalent:

A Cukras-style flower power decal will scare the competition

 

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 06:17 PM

Are you going to run it in at the track or do a water break in first? :D


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Posted 26 June 2017 - 12:30 PM

 

Shades of the past...being forced to listen to a younger family member's Sesame Street record...over and over..."the horror"...lol


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Posted 26 June 2017 - 01:34 PM

I think you might have given away that ABC body mounting jig too quickly. With  it, you could have had a flock of ducks done by now. :)


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Posted 26 June 2017 - 02:17 PM

Actually, that song made it onto the pop charts back in the late 1960's. I can't for the life of me remember the artist,

but comedy records were quite popular at the time. Ray Stevens being one of the more prolific writers.



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Posted 26 June 2017 - 03:11 PM

Are you going to run it in at the track or do a water break in first? :D

Cheater already broke it in underwater with Mr. Bubbles in post #31 :laugh2:

 

I have a more powerful motor with a 10T Slot It pinion just in case the car is able to handle it

 

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Posted 26 June 2017 - 05:43 PM

Don't think the tires will support the torque of a H-7. :shok: That duck might fly south early this year :sarcastic_hand:


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Posted 26 June 2017 - 05:50 PM

You're the motor expert but I don't think that's a H7, I think it's either a F7 or a MiniBrute.

Tell me if I'm wrong.


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 06:15 AM

YOU RIGHT! I BOW and WOW DOG GONE IT! :D


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 07:26 AM

The motor in the last photo doesn't have the can configuration of either one of Slick 7's MiniBrutes. It's probably a Falcon. I bought some dollar motors with closed cans & white plastic endbells that look like yours. I don't know what they are, but they got goobs or RPMs. 


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Posted 29 June 2017 - 09:00 AM

Track test results: at 10 volts it's slow but smooth and handles surprisingly well, despite being top heavy.

In fact, I think it handles well enough for more power. So I'll install the F7 motor for this Saturday's test at The Dungeon :scare:

 

Definitely the most popular car on the track, the kids were cheering "go duckie, go!!" :)


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Posted 29 June 2017 - 03:58 PM

Charlie McCullough trick - round off sharp corners of flag nuts where wires push against them.

I used a Dremel and small sanding arbor. Didn't cost me a penny and it made me feel good.

In a serious race car I'd highly recommend it

 

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New (used) Falcon 7 motor installed with a 10T pinion. The duck says "I can handle it, no problemo" :sun_bespectacled: Hope he's right 

 

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 04:25 PM

The little duck is going to sprout wings and fly with a Falcon in there

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 05:16 PM

Its your duck and you know what you are doing but I would have used a 7 or 8 tooth pinion.

 

Have fun.


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Posted 29 June 2017 - 05:42 PM

Eddie, the wheels ended up at about .720 OD.

A Falcon 7 motor geared about 3 to 1 with .750 wheels is very common - been doing it for years.

2.8 to 1 with .720 is not abnormal at all.

 

I don't blame you for disagreeing. Very few people actually understand slot car gearing as relates to rear wheel size.

This isn't my first rodeo with small cars, Eddie:

 

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