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#26 Mattb

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:55 PM

I guess my whole issue with this is that most of us can take one of these cars and work it over and it will handle somewhat better.   You can tweak it with some soldering and some thread locker.     My whole issue is, don't these companies have one person on the payroll that knows slot cars as well as guys here?   Can't they accept any input from a couple of guys on the payroll that know slot cars.   I don't think we are asking for a  bunch of improvements that increase costs.  Just some changes to a more competitive/better out of the box slot car.   I  think most of what has been discussed doesn't add much expense.     

 

Remember the AMT fiasco of a few years ago with their 1/25 slot car kits.  I guess their input came from people in the doll industry or something, but nobody that knew s**t about slot cars had any input.    They had screw together guide flags!   Push on plastic wheels!    This from a company that made a decent brass chassis in 1965.

 

Just let a slot car guy give some input.


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Posted 08 February 2018 - 06:18 PM

The AMT fiasco wasn't by the same company that made brass chassis in '65, other than in name only. They should have just sold hard body kits this time around. Today's AT&T isn't the same company they were 25-40 years ago either..


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Posted 08 February 2018 - 06:44 PM

I agree Mattb, there's a disconnect between design, manufacture and use, apparently done without input from the domestic slot racing community. Right now I have a handsome collection of 1/24th BRM and Scale Auto shelf model cars with guide flags!


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Posted 08 February 2018 - 07:05 PM

King tracks in Europe are thought appropriate for Wing cars and that's about it. Most club tracks are flat and 6 lanes with most having NO scenery.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 07:05 PM

Remember the AMT fiasco of a few years ago with their 1/25 slot car kits.  I guess their input came from people in the doll industry or something, but nobody that knew s**t about slot cars had any input.    They had screw together guide flags!   Push on plastic wheels!    This from a company that made a decent brass chassis in 1965.

 

Just let a slot car guy give some input.

They got input from one of the most slot savvy guys around. A blog member. They dismissed his advice.

 

Maybe they can be convinced to release a "Body Only".   


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Posted 08 February 2018 - 07:40 PM

LOL

 

Ours ain't shelf models and not very handsome either. The Toyota outhandles(can that be said of a BRM?  LOL) the other BRM Group C cars. Do I wish the BRM's were constructed better and handled better? For SURE! But they are what they are and if I paid $150 or more for a slot car(which I did), I'm damn sure gonna race it. It's an absolute JOY to finish a BRM race and then put our Scaleauto's on the track... the difference between night and day.

 

 

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 08:07 PM

Do you race the BRM's with the plastic or metal chassis?

I hosted a couple big BRM races, in conjunction with the hobby show.

The final 8 racers who transferred into the Main, were required to switch to new handout motors.

They did it at one table, 2 racers at a time, in 4 seperate stages, because the BRM officials felt that was the most they could keep an adequate, eye on.

It was 12:30 at night, while this was going on, and my head was slowly unscrewing from my neck.

IIRC, we finished 1:30-2:00 AM.

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 08:57 AM

We run the plastic chassis'. A few of us have the aluminum chassis but we've never gotten around to racing them. We mostly follow the rules but we don't get worked up about 'em; running the hardbody cars is our escape from the stress of "real" racing. I think the only thing we check at tech is if the car has some kind of clearance.


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Posted 25 April 2018 - 02:37 PM

I picked up two of the BRM Trans-Am Mustangs to run on my routed home track for a little scale realism. In contrast, the majority of my slot car collection is of the commercial track variety. The level of detail and quality of these cars is pretty good and to my surprise handle way better than my expectations and way better than any other home-set car I’ve tried on my track.

 

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Posted 01 May 2018 - 04:47 PM

Just got one of these Trans-Am Mustangs, out of the box, touched nothing and it performs flawlessly on my home Carrera track. It competes against my fully tuned H&R Racing chassis Hardbody cars. I really don't understand those who complain about the latest releases by BRM. These are far superior to their earlier plastic chassis cars, which were designed to race on plastic tracks, not commercial tracks. And yes, the earlier BRM cars can be tuned to race in commercial tracks, as i have done it for 7+ years and had a blast doing it. It is just like racing Hardbody cars back in the mid 1960's- ya have to race them, they are not glued down to the track cars. They are SCALE model car racing slot cars, not wing cars.  And when raced together they are very competitive and fun.

 

ps- an out of the box Scaleauto car, with Scaleauto foam rubber rears, performs perfectly on any commercial track. did that for years too 

 

all slotcars need tweaks and tuning to perform better- so why complain about tuning a BRM car??

 

SCALE model car Hardbody racing is not for everyone. That's why we have all types and scales of slot cars to choose from. Pick what ya like and race it, don't put down what others enjoy.

 

oh yeah- these new Trans-Am cars are $139.99, a big price reduction by their importer. The new anodized aluminum chassis is their best to date. Quality is top notch for the price. To build a quality H&R Racing Hardbody model kit bodied car costs approx. $100 and takes a lot of hours to build and tune, so worth $40 more to take one of these beauties out of the box and onto my track. For those of us who enjoy BRM and Scaleauto cars, these new Trans-Am models are a welcome release and we are happy to have them, and we want more. 

 

If you want to go really fast, race wing cars. If you want to race really SCALE cars, in other words- real model car racing as when the hobby started, and continues, in 1/24 scale- try one of these. You just might like it. 


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:58 AM

Those Stangs look awesome!  I think I will get a Camaro and a Mustang too...


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Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:32 AM

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It is amazing to me that after slot cars as we know them have been around for over 50 years, a company can't make a car you pull out of the box and it runs great. " And it was probably designed by CAD???? 

This isn't a sometimes problem but since a large number of homeset cars are used as don't take me out of my box, that just pretend to be usable, there is little incentive to improve. 


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Posted 02 September 2018 - 02:43 PM

for those who do not care for "nuts and bolts" types of SCALE chassis, do a little research and see what is being built and raced n Europe. REAlE SCALE Model Car Racing- detailed to perfection, chassis that perform very well, cars handle great, but are NOT in any way to be compared to wing cars, in either speed, handling, or looks. I still don't understand these types of discussions that compare apples to oranges. And the other complaints about rtr cars needing tuning once removed from the box- then tell me why racers go to extremes to rewind motors, balance motor parts, adjust brushes, chassis tweaks, etc etc etc??? Or, let's open up the scratch building comparison discussion, opening up another "can of worms".  Just watch the amount of soldering and other types of work done on slot cars at any commercial race.  Do your Parma, JK, etc cars work perfectly "out of the box"??                                                                                                                              

  The answer here is simple: race BRM cars by themselves as it's own class- they are fun and a challenge to race; race Scaleauto cars as it's own class- they perfrom great out of the box, just add their own foam rubber rears for commercial tracks with light spray (or no) glue. I did this for many years and it was amongst the most enjoyable racing i have ever done. And yes i also build, tune and race H&R Racing hardbody cars with model kit bodies- again, race them in their own class. There ya go fellas: 3 separate SCALE Model Car Racing hardbody 1/24 scale classes that perfrom well on a good road course track.  and btw- a box stock Scaleauto Porsche, with foam rubber rears, can match or beat any super tuned H&R hardbody car I have raced against. 

 

   back to the original topic- these new BRM Trans-Am cars are beautiful, I have only minor issues with them- not much braking, but have yet to mount foam rubber rears to them or try either a different motor or gear ratio- But these are all standard tuning options for any model or scale or type of slot car, based on the track you are racing on. As far as complaints about too many crashes with BRM cars and body damage- I have raced al of the above mentioned hardbody cars, with 2 types of racers: one type can't keep their cars in the slot and crash often, others barely ever come out at all. With the first group, body damage was a big issue. With the second group, body damage was not an issue. If you race these types of hardbody cars beyond their capabilities, then body damage will occur. So I do not really see any of the complaints brought up about these cars as significant issues. 


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Posted 30 September 2018 - 02:17 AM

These BRM TransAm cars are great to drive, " and just that, DRIVE ", they don't go flat out around corners, banked or flat.
And I'm sure I spent less time getting my BRM's race ready than Mattb spent on his Camaro.
But then, both cars are built to a different rule set, for a different purpose, ones hard body racing, the other is true scale racing.

Sportblazer350, try spacing the guide down with something firmer than the supplied spring, I've found that poor braid contact on BRM cars to be the problem when it comes to average brakes.
From memory, the gear ratio is 12/38, you can get a 41t spur from BRM, which would also help with braking.
I have also successfully used PlaFit spur gears on them, to broaden you gear range.

As for tuning, there is a coloured cross brace on the body plate, either red or blue, that has a couple of unused, threaded holes.
Screws can be fitted into these to limit main/center plate movement.
I've also found that a bit of lead in just the right place helps with handling.
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