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#1 TSR

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 11:14 PM

OK, race is next week and I don't have a car. Worse: I have not raced a slot car in nearly 3 months. Worse: I have to build THREE cars, because I made promises I must keep.
So what one does in such circumstances and less than a week before the Big One?
Well in my case, I have to get off my lazy bum and get cracking. And since we are at it and this Slotblog! thing is also supposed to be eh-duh-ka-tional, I will share with you the result of the few neurones still connecting in my geriatric brain.

Foyst as they say in New Joysy, get a couple of Warmack bits because it makes things so much easier. I selected his wonderful chassis pan and main rail as well as his guide tongue and a special hypoid "short" motor bracket. Bryan was kind enough to make me a trio of it so that I can build the three cars just about the same.

The first thing to do is to analyze what will work better than the "last" car I raced there, see if I can get a lighter car that will negotiate the critical turns (donut and top) faster and "safer".
Light cars are twitchy but they have less to carry for the little motor, so if I can get a car weighing about 100 grams, that will corner like a 115-gram car, I am sure that I could get out of the "C" race where I likely will end out of practice and competitive machinery.

Hence: I decided on a short car (3-7/8" wheelbase and the shortest guide lead offered by the kit) while getting as much weight I can from the center of the car and adding a bit to the back to improve traction, while providing for high speed in the banking and the chute by keeping much weight on the front end.

1/ Using my trusty 35-year old Dremel MotoTool and a total of 7 discs, I removed much weight from the pan as shown. I held the pan with a flat pair of parallel jaw pliers after wrapping a rag around the part so as to avoid scratches on the brass.

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I also "rolled" the ends of the front bumper to receive a piece of 1/16" steel wire that will act as a bumper (more on that later). I also cut and filed the center body post to save weight. Here is the finished part compared to the stock part. Savings: 8 grams.

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Next, I cut two slots to receive the returning loop of the front bumper. As well as cutting extra slots along the main rail slots to receive a piece of .032" wire for the pan hinges.

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Next I formed a pair of symmetrical bumpers made from 1/16" music wire. These are a little bit of a b*itch to form as they must be totally flat while their outer ends "jump" on top of the .032" pan.

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Their length must correspond exactly so as to fit right under the front of the chosen body, in this case a M.A.C. Ferrari 312. These bumpers will help save the body when crashing hard in case of a "rider". They also will help the car from "pushing" in the banking, while allowing the use of softer tires.

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The tongue is shortened and substantially lightened as shown (another 2.5 grams gain):

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This is what is left of the first two Dremel discs, I got a good use out of them!

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The motor bracket diet is next. These .040" brackets are cut and filed to lose a cool 5 grams!

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A piece of brass tubing of exacting length, dressed on the lathe, is then fitted. The exact length is that of the total axle width (3.125") minus the thickness of the wheels used as well as that of the bearing flanges, and 10-thou for two thin washers in case you use bronze bushings.
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The "kit" is now ready for some assembly:

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First go the main rails, then the motor bracket, all assembled with a torch rather than an iron so as to ensure perfect solder flow and no "cold" joints. The axle tube is also soldered, then cut to provide gear clearance.

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To be continued... only 6 days left! :shok:

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#2 Mike Steube

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 11:32 PM

Humm, at this pace he should be done next Sunday night. :laugh2: Sano work. Looks like ya still gots it. :D Build on, bro.

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 11:44 PM

Uh, just in case Mike, you DO have a backup car for me, bro', RIGHT? :laugh2:

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 11:45 PM

Philippe, the chassis that you showed me on the Fourth of July was turning out beautifully. I have found a great shampoo for you, and will see you later this coming week. Great post and pictures,

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 12:18 AM

One question, what do you listen to and sip from a glass while the iron is hot?
Nice work P, I am grateful that you shared with the rest of us your skills! :)

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 01:31 AM

Very impressive...
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 01:42 AM

Dokk

I was not going to show up this Saturday but seeing what you are coming up with I guess I have to show up and wish you good luck.

Sure looking sweet. ;) I don't think you need anyone's support, you have it in your blood.

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It's our duty to remember the past so we can have a future.

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 02:04 AM

Dokk
I can't help my self, so please forgive me but the TITLE is way to funny I will show you my "In search of the ultimate" No can't do that. ;)
There was a few woman that was smiling when I snuck out.
I promise after August 16 I will sober up and only post when I made some thing to show.

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It's our duty to remember the past so we can have a future.

Pistol Pete you will always be in my memory.

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 02:22 AM

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 02:26 AM

Now....THOSE....are some bumpers.
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 03:13 AM

They are not bumpers they are curb feelers. :rolleyes:
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 07:26 AM

LOL! :laugh2:

It IS nice to see, though, that Philippe at least knows which end of the soldering iron to hold. Gofrit, dood!
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:47 AM

I found out from the last car I built using such bumpers (which I also used on some of my piano-wire cars in France in the late 1960's and for the same reason) that they are considerable help as cow catcher, simply shoving errand cars right above my car without de-slotting it. The last car I built using them was fast but inconsistent and the way the bumpers were soldered was not secure enough as they would crack their solder joints. I now use some 430 stuff and these suckers will get tied up with brass wire before hitting the track. Their total weight is 2 grams. I will save that somewhere else...

Dave, I don't live at the track. Are you done with my Zombie Big Mutt car yet? :)

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:50 AM

Not bad for an old guy...

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 10:43 AM

"Curb feelers"!! Just what an "old guy" needs to drive safely!!! :laugh2: :laugh2:

Looking good - it'll be interesting to see how the PdL King Train Cowcatcher works in action!! It should be fun to see this Sat, Phillipe. I'll try not to be the "test vehicle"!!! :shok:
She's real fine, my 409!!!

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 11:54 AM

Tchoo-tchooooooo!!!! :)

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 12:10 PM

Uh, just in case Mike, you DO have a backup car for me, bro', RIGHT? :laugh2:

Ok... gonna get me going again? :laugh2:
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 12:16 PM

Now...THOSE...are some bumpers.

Is this like having some sort of a false sense of security or what? :rolleyes: You can get broadsided just as easily and end your whole game. Better get full coverage car insurance, too. :D

See, I told you it's better to have a back-up car in case... but nobody wants to listen. :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 12:17 PM

Those might help in low speed stuff.

But if those bumpers are installed well enough to withstand a moderate crash, I think they'll just help bend the frame.

Also, unless you somehow duct tape them to the body, I think the body will just get tangled up in them in a moderate crash and make it harder for a marshall to unscrunch the front of the body.

IMHO, you would be better off just to reinforce the front of body real well with Lexan or mylar sheet to help with your "cow-catching".

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 12:20 PM

It is a secret ploy to have them them extend forward to drag on the track like a Flexi car. Or he doesn't plan on going fast enough to bend anything in a crash... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 12:31 PM

Tony,

I thought of that, too, but my "accusing the other guy of getting an unfair advantage" filter
is set a little higher on my keyboard than on yours. ;)

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 12:50 PM

I think someone is yanking a chain. :)
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 02:18 PM

Actually I am listening to KUSC, the classic radio station in SoCal, same as Mr. Bryan Warmack is listening to in his shop since we share the space.
The rest of the time I am forced into listening to Tore crying about life in general and how important it is to him that our soldiers, for whom he never gave a thought before, MUST come home from Iraq right now regardless of the effect it would have on the health of this nation and the planet in general. ;)
And now back to soldering... and Mozart. :)

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 02:47 PM

Philippe,

Hey, them bumpers look R E A L good to me and if'in they don't work it will gave ya a good place to hang it on the wall after the race! HA! I think you need to run tape on them so they do not cause air turbulences "and things such as this." Talk to Foam because on his planet (Zarconn X) they tape up those... but then the air molecules are 1,000 times larger then ours...

Oh, also I'm sure you have heard the term "Made loud to be played loud" well... if'in ya make this sweet lookin' chassis with Mozart playing it will be real cool but slow... now if'in ya just could ask someone fer sum Led Zeppelin or Jethro Tull eight-tracks (No CDs as that would not be retro) and sum good cold beer, that thang will be a jet!...

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 03:58 PM

One question, what do you listen to and sip from a glass while the iron is hot?
Nice work P, I am grateful that you shared with the rest of us your skills! :)

That's an easy one, Jairus. :D

That would be Rush Limbaugh (left ear) and Sean Hannity (right ear).

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