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Guide flag?

Started by Rotorranch , Apr 19 2020 04:57 PM

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#26 swodem

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 01:53 AM

Yes but the pivoting flag doesn’t steer the car at all

The pivot point being steered changes the direction

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 02:24 AM

If you don't find a difference, you should run what you want, or run what you can afford.

For other's, in the U.S., where there is virtually no chance of driving variation, from lap to lap, like on a Gerding King, it is clear as day.

On a road course, it's probably pretty more clear to top drivers, to tell subtle differences.

Like in the case of Dominykas Budrys and Jonathan Forsyth, using my weighted Red Fox guides.

The first time Jonathan tried one, in the U.S., he could tell the car drove better with it, than an unweighted Red Fox one.

And when he gave Dominykas a chance to try one at the ISRA Worlds, after a few laps, Dominykas told Jonathan that was what they were going to run.

They won that Production race, Dominykas also won F1 that year, with one, and the 2 of them wound up winning last year's Production race.

IMO, if anyone can tell a subtle difference in car performance, on a road course, ISRA #1 is that racer.

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 02:47 AM

"The pivot point being steered changes the direction"

Thus a slight change in the pivot point from the rear axle would be expected to make a change to the handling characteristics of a slot car. Now for the why? I can't say for certain.

AJ Hoyt has tried to simulate guide flag behavior entering a turn. It looks like there is more bouncing back and forth in the slot than we would think. It might be interesting to have a cut open slot under a track to tape the behavior of the guide flag entering and through a turn and observe it in slow motion. Anybody want to volunteer their track?

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Posted 15 May 2020 - 09:05 AM

The part that extends into the slot looks like a flag extending from a flag pole. (Captain Obvious)

Ooooh, I see. If someone held a guide upside down and said, hey this looks like a flag! I would roll my eyes, shake my head and think to myself, well that's really stupid. But apparently someone in the '60s thought it was a good idea and the name stuck.

From this day forward it will simply be a guide to me.