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[Bryan Warmack]

It is common knowledge that Tore Anderson's tired old feet are indeed trash. I asked him on Monday if he was going to race in the upcoming Can Am D3 race at BP on Saturday, Sept. 13 and he said he was going to have to pass as his feet recently will not allow him to stand up for more than a few hours at a time. The arthritis in his feet (and his hands) causes severe pain when he is on his feet too long. With all the entries the Can Am gets he just decided it is too much of a strain on his feet. I told him that maybe I could qualify his car for him if no one had any objections and he said great. I would help out with extra turn marshalling to make up for his absence. I know we have done several things like this in the past, where one driver drives someone elses car, for whatever reason, but we just want to know if anyone has any problems with something like this before race day. Hope all is OK with Chris and Lenore.

[TSR]

I personally have no issues with that because either Bryan or John would have done a good job with the car, so it makes little difference as far as qualifying.
As we get older we all might need help, so I am happy to buy my credits now even if it means that John might well clean my clock at race time.
















OK Tore, you can slide the cash in the usual envelope. No checks please.

[Mike K]

Bryan and All-

While I will not be able to attend this month due to another commitment, I do not have any problem with this arrangement.

I watched Tore try to get comfortable with a full day of racing throughout the week at the Masters in Chicago this past February and can see why he would "take a pass" on the long D3 schedule as it currently exists. Just trying to get comfortable for Tore is beyond what any of us have to do to prepare for a race day.

While Tore likes to mix it up on the blog, he certainly is missed when he is not in attendance at the races. It has been my feeling that the D3 crowd wants to get all the racers out when ever and how ever it can. We make other concessions to those who do not have the physical ability to marshal, why should this be any different?

My vote (if we're taking one) is YES.

[redbackspyder]

It is common knowledge that Tore Anderson's tired old feet are indeed trash. I asked him on Monday if he was going to race in the upcoming Can Am D3 race at BP on Saturday, Sept. 13 and he said he was going to have to pass as his feet recently will not allow him to stand up for more than a few hours at a time. The arthritis in his feet (and his hands) causes severe pain when he is on his feet too long. With all the entries the Can Am gets he just decided it is too much of a strain on his feet. I told him that maybe I could qualify his car for him if no one had any objections and he said great. I would help out with extra turn marshalling to make up for his absence. I know we have done several things like this in the past, where one driver drives someone elses car, for whatever reason, but we just want to know if anyone has any problems with something like this before race day. Hope all is OK with Chris and Lenore.

I will also volunteer to help Tore out in any way that I can. I would be happy to fulfill turn marshalling responsibilities whenever I can. And anybody who has objections to helping out the Toremeister is not worthy of racing D3 anyway!!! Anyone disputing it better be ready to back it up.
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[68Caddy]

Amen.


Nesta

[Craig]

Come on down Tore, will get you a nice comfy chair and a foot rest while your not racing to relax them old dogs. I'm certain we can find someone to marshal for you and it will only cost you letting me have a look at your chassis for 5 minutes with a pair of calipers and a scale!! Maybe even a camera so I don't have to remember.

[Keith Tanaka]

Da Goat is welcome anytime, standing, sitting, doesn't matter as long as he's enjoying racing with us.
We all enjoy your company, so come on down Tore!

Keith

[idare2bdul]

I'll bring a second stool for you to sit on! I can relate to the pain problem. It's hard to admit the body just won't let you do what you used to do. Hang in there.

[JerseyJohn]

You Cali guys are a class act!!!!!

[HarV Wallbanger III]

He needs a hand-i-cap anyway so I think I should drive his car so he has to work up from the bottom mains!

LUF YA MAN!

[The Bugman]

I'll bring a second stool for you to sit on! I can relate to the pain problem. It's hard to admit the body just won't let you do what you used to do. Hang in there.

can we make that one more chair to sit in / on for me too,,,,,,,,geeeeez we sound like the walking wounded here at BPR,,,,,,,lol
hey i got an idea,let one of us B racers qualify Tore's car,and Warmack or Cukras can qualify,mine,,,,,lol

[Mike Steube]

I have no problem with Bryan's request. Personally, I would like to see A, B, C ect. classes. Classification would be determined on past race results and personal driving reputation. A classification panel would oversee things. That way your spot in a class is secured if problems come up with being there for qualifying. It would also help to keep A driver's out of the B race, B's out of the C's race, C's out of the D's race due to unforseen trouble. A racer would be able to sign into a higher classification race if he or she wanted to. No, you can't go down unless your race results show the need to drop a class. I think we would have less pressure and more fun. The races would be round robin. This way Tore could get someone to turn marshal for him and just show up for the race with last lane choice in the A race. From what I've seen with round robin racing this should be no problem as long as your in the race.

[The Bugman]

Come on down Tore, will get you a nice comfy chair and a foot rest while your not racing to relax them old dogs. I'm certain we can find someone to marshal for you and it will only cost you letting me have a look at your chassis for 5 minutes with a pair of calipers and a scale!! Maybe even a camera so I don't have to remember.

craig,can you make duplicate copies of those stats,,,,,,,for this B racer,,
but even if we got em,we still gotta find someone to drive like he does,,,,,,,,heya tore,can you drive 2 cars at once,,,,,prob better than me with one still,,,,,,,

[Tim Neja]

Come on down Tore--- you can race no matter what!!! I like Craig's idea though-- you're car gets copied by all the racers!! As if I haven't been trying to do that already!!

I don't like Bryan qualifying it though--it gives him too much practize when he's already beating our brains out!!! I'd volunteer for the duty though!!

Da Goat's gotta be there--- who else can we punish with smack talk if we get lucky to beat him????

Steube---too much like actual rules---let's keep it simple. Race where ya qualify! Da Goat's a "special case"!! Of course, as my mind goes--I'll expect some favored treats too!!!

T

[TSR]

I like Mike's idea.

[Tim Neja]

I like Mike's idea.

It's good for the B and C racers--of which I know I'm one--to see an A racer down there once in a while. If ya never race with those guys--you don't know what you can do! I know I benefit a LOT from driving with you guys-- it really helped me to understand where and when to push a car!! If I never got to see ya in the B and C once in a while because of some qualifying misshaps, I wouldn't have gotten that benefit! Racing where ya qualify is the ultimate fair way to race. Seedings are great for Tennis--but I don't see Nascar or F-1 going that route? IMHO
T

[HarV Wallbanger III]

I agree Tim keep it simple and make the "big guys" stay fast er' else they get to race with me!

It's good for the B and C racers--of which I know I'm one--to see an A racer down there once in a while. If ya never race with those guys--you don't know what you can do! I know I benefit a LOT from driving with you guys-- it really helped me to understand where and when to push a car!! If I never got to see ya in the B and C once in a while because of some qualifying misshaps, I wouldn't have gotten that benefit! Racing where ya qualify is the ultimate fair way to race. Seedings are great for Tennis--but I don't see Nascar or F-1 going that route? IMHO
T

[Tim Neja]

Okay!!! THIS doesn't qualify as TRASH TALK--- the heading for this thread!@!!!

I'm gonna whip Tore's BUTT anyway even if he DOESN'T need to qualify!!! Come on down GOAT---yer gonna be chewin on yer controller anyway!!! I'm ready for ya with a Can Am missle copy of Bryan's past winning car!!! That's right-- I can't design--but I CAN COPY!!! So BRING IT GOAT!!! You TOO MR Warmack!!! Oh--can't forget DURAN AND Dale now either--- OR Doug!! GEEEZZZ --have I beat ANYONE LATELY???? Oh well, NOT for lack of TRYING!!!!

Sooo---who's up next?????????

[Ron Hershman]

Okay!!! THIS doesn't qualify as TRASH TALK--- the heading for this thread!@!!!

I'm gonna whip Tore's BUTT anyway even if he DOESN'T need to qualify!!! Come on down GOAT---yer gonna be chewin on yer controller anyway!!! I'm ready for ya with a Can Am missle copy of Bryan's past winning car!!! That's right-- I can't design--but I CAN COPY!!! So BRING IT GOAT!!! You TOO MR Warmack!!! Oh--can't forget DURAN AND Dale now either--- OR Doug!! GEEEZZZ --have I beat ANYONE LATELY???? Oh well, NOT for lack of TRYING!!!!

Sooo---who's up next?????????

The "trash man" has spoken. ; )

[Ron Hershman]

The races would be round robin. This way Tore could get someone to turn marshal for him and just show up for the race with last lane choice in the A race. From what I've seen with round robin racing this should be no problem as long as your in the race.

Ever consider running the race as one "big" round robin?? Like they did at the Zombie race???

Everybody in the same race, everybody races with everybody good or bad, less time to run an event, plenty of marshalls, overall lap totals determine the finish.

[Tim Neja]

The "Trashman" Says--round robins SUCK!! It just ensures that you can have really slow cars running with really fast ones!! Not a good recipe for good racing!! Kinda like the 24hrs of Le Mans--watching top class cars get taken out by slower class cars-- but it IS still racin!!
That's what qualifying is for--- sort out who's doing what to whom for that day!

[Mike K]

That's what qualifying is for--- sort out who's doing what to whom for that day!

Maybe, but what about those "HAIR LAPPERS" that can make one fast lap in a minute of qualifying, but can't keep the car in the slot for eight heats of racing???

I think I'd rather have to negotiate a slower car in the next lane during one or two heats than to worry about getting taken out from six lanes away through the whole race. . .

[dougmatthes]

Some excellent points are being made here...and DaGOAT don't kneed to qualify.

I dig that name DaGOAT, and I'm proposing all the SoCal dudes get similar animal names...

Kyle...DaSNAKE
Doug...DaSHARK
Paul...DaLION
PdL...Da^%%*
Steube...DaTERMITE
Tim...DaGORILA
Keith...DaPANDA
Bryan...DaOWL
Cukras...DaHORSE
Zim...DaTREX
Oscar...DaJELLYFISH
Wampler...DaFISH
Roger...DaLAMB
JohnW...DaDOG
MikeB...DaSEAHORSE
Foamy...DaOCTOPUS
Barney...DaBEAVER

[GT40]

Well, considering the age and condition of many in the field, maybe we should go REALLY retro and bring back the stools at the driver's stations, like the old days

Hoping to get back down there soon. Any reasonable accomodation for Tore or any of the D3 group doesn't bother me. It's supposed to be fun, right?

[HarV Wallbanger III]

Let there be TQ! If'in they can not keep up then I take care of them in the "Z" main! Let da Goat sit it out and get'em a pitch hitter to stand in 'fer em!

The "Trashman" Says--round robins SUCK!! It just ensures that you can have really slow cars running with really fast ones!! Not a good recipe for good racing!! Kinda like the 24hrs of Le Mans--watching top class cars get taken out by slower class cars-- but it IS still racin!!
That's what qualifying is for--- sort out who's doing what to whom for that day!