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#1 Martin

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Posted 16 October 2021 - 10:04 PM

I saved this add, and I have seen cars that look similar to this.

 

I question  the drop arm, as I have pics of cars with the same drop arm that was used on the Super Bandit.

 

Does any one here have an original car and can they share pics?

 

 

 

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Posted 17 October 2021 - 12:46 PM

That GE motor on a plastic track would be interesting.


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Posted 17 October 2021 - 03:11 PM

Dynamic 1/24 Cars: 
All featured the DynaFlex Die-cast aluminum Inline Chassis 
& GE Silver Hornet Motor #208 ("Stock" version)

Body

Kit or RTR / Number

Colors

Mirage Can-Am

Kit  / 2023 

Black, Red

McLaren MK6

RTR  / 2003

Orange

Chaparral 2F

RTR   /2025

White

Ferrari P4

RTR  / 2006 *

Red

Ferrari 3-liter V12 F1

RTR  / 2007

Red

McLaren M6GT

RTR / 2006 *

Orange

Dodge Charger

RTR / 2004

Blue

 

 

*  NO PHOTOS AVAILABLE


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Posted 17 October 2021 - 07:25 PM

I think I need pics from the LASCM to know which drop arm etc. was used.

Tim thanks for the part # list.

Michael, does seem a bit of a strange choice for a promotion shot. Really you guys could not find a wood track to show it off :wacko2:

 

"Martin,
yes, the LASCM has both models. Yes, both bodies were produced by Dynamic. I hope to be going there in the near future and will take pics.

Philippe de Lespinay"

 

So I am hope full all my questions will be answered with a pic or 2 of a boxed P4 car. :)


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Posted 27 October 2021 - 11:49 AM

Great to see all the pics from the LASCM.

While taking the Visual tour I found a partial pic of the RTR P4. So I can see the rear half of the body. Would love to see the whole car and its under side.To confirm the correct guide part.

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Posted 27 October 2021 - 12:19 PM

Martin, it is possible the car came both ways.    Near the  end of the rtr slot car business, they may have used whatever they had left that would work.   There may be no definitive answer.


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Posted 27 October 2021 - 01:26 PM

Both ways makes sense to me also Matt.  I would still like to see the example that is in the LASCM.

 

I need to know what that P4 body looks like too.

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Posted 27 October 2021 - 05:07 PM

Victor did the P4, but I don't know which body he did, probably Lancer.   I would assume Dynamic used an original Dynamic mold, but that kind of detail  is hard to find out is the late years of slot cars.  Philippe may have some info whenever he checks in again.   Production  in the 68/69 years must have been miniscule compared to   production 65/66.


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Posted 27 October 2021 - 07:30 PM

I assume the body is just a Dynamic P4. https://www.worthpoi...a-24-1857391554
The #197 Rick Thigpen car you show also has a Dynamic body.
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Posted 27 October 2021 - 10:35 PM

This is a quote from Rick

"Dynamic actually had two versions of the P4 that were VERY different yet used the same part number "

 

In the add, it looks like the long body, in the RTR box at the LASCM of what I can see, it looks like the short body.?

 

Thanks for the help guys :)


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Posted 01 November 2021 - 10:53 PM

To me the art work looks is the long version of the Dynamic P4 and While gathering the parts today I realized the RTR car had to have the short body if using the same guide tongue as the Super Bandit. It fits the short body wheel base perfect.

 

There maybe 2 versions of the RTR P4 as they could use the adjustable WB tongue and fit it to the long body. But the timeline of the RTR car suggests the short body was in production at that time and superseded the long body.

To be confirmed by Mr P when he gets time to take a pic of the boxed car at the LASCM, pretty please :D

 

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Posted 03 November 2021 - 06:28 PM

Did a bit of chassis assembly today. These are the 2 variables. The one on the left fits the longer P4 body and you can see the chassis on the right is about 1/4'' shorter and fits the later short P4 body.

 

After cleaning the body mounts I noticed the rear tangs are different lengths. Which side is correct :wacko2:

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Posted 03 November 2021 - 08:32 PM

Sounds like the short body might be correct.     We'll know for sure when Philippe can gets some pix.   Same for the brass side pans.   The  picture will show the correct assembly.    Maybe Philippe will check in the next few days.   


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Posted 03 November 2021 - 10:17 PM

I would love to put my guess work to rest.

 

What I surmise is that when the art work was drawn and the add photo taken, the car was planned to have the long P4 body, which was currently in stock.

 

Then in 68 the short P4 body was put in production for better handling possibly? Same part number as we now know. 

 

The new Short P4 body has a shorter wheel base, the solution was to use the shorter Super Bandit drop arm.

 

Only the evidence at the museum will tell if these assumptions hold water?

 

What does seem strange to me is when I do a search for this RTR car I get no pics of the factory RTR P4 car. Is it that rare? was it even sold in decent numbers?

 

Or did it arrive to late to the party?

The stamped brass Dynamic angle winder ( in the same box BTW) was cheaper to make and in more demand than the inline GE motored lump.

 

Thoughts  welcome, and if anybody has this car. Please please post a pic.


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Posted 04 November 2021 - 12:19 PM

....and could this be the factory RTR color?

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Posted 04 November 2021 - 01:35 PM

The car at the LASCM doesn't seem to have metallic but I can't really tell. 


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Posted 04 November 2021 - 09:44 PM

Wish I knew someone going to the LASCM. :) Love to have them take some good pics. Then I would have confidence I am building an exact clone.

 

Is it that rare that no one in our circle has one or a pic of one?  Was it never widely sold? :o


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Posted 05 November 2021 - 08:44 PM

Some time ago Matt posed this pic of an ebay lot.

 

Looking again, what was thought to be a Super Bandit chassis, is not.

 

The GE motor is there, the side pans and the short P4 body. This was a RTR P4 I am sure :victory:

 

Yes it has the same drop arm as the Super Bandit confirmed.

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Posted 05 November 2021 - 08:47 PM

That looks right! Make sure to show the final result. 


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Posted 05 November 2021 - 11:12 PM

Will do Isaac, Still have to find a good quality P4 body. But now I am sure of what I am looking. :good:

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Posted 07 November 2021 - 07:07 PM

I don't think I have the same one. Just missed out on a Dynamic Alfa T-33. Second time in 2 months. $65.25 this time,$76 last time. At least there going down ? LMFAO ! Didn't realize there made of unobtainium! Ps: I'll send you some better pictures tomorrow.

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Posted 07 November 2021 - 07:16 PM

Anyone know who made the one on the left?

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Posted 07 November 2021 - 08:30 PM

Lancer,its the Ferrari 330P3, it was sold separately and with the Dynamic kit

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Posted 07 November 2021 - 08:51 PM

I thought that the front ends looked (almost)identical. Thanks

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Posted 08 November 2021 - 01:59 AM

Maby this one ?

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