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[MSwiss]

Not that we have our first race on our new flat track under our belt, Chicagoland Raceway is proud to announce the first "Sano Shootout" with a tenative date of October 12-14, 2007.
It will be a combination of at least 3-4 Can-Am, GT, and F1 races on C/R's King and the new flat track (probably in both its configurations, with or without esses).
Whoever has the lowest aggregate placing will be declared "The Most Wickedly, Sano Cat on the Planet".

While I know the competition will be fierce, I hoping this equally will be a social event.
I'll will try to plan the schedule to include a BBQ at my house on Sunday night.
It's 20 minutes from the track and probably 10 minutes from the preferred motels guys will be staying at.
My fiancee's seven-passenger mini-van and a driver will be available in case the East Coast Guys show up.

Please use this thread for any rules suggestions and also thoughts on the date. While I could go earlier in October, later is not possible as that part of Racetober is booked with events in conjunction with the iHobby Show the weekend of the 19th and the Chicago 500 wing car race the weekend of the 27th.

Also, considering all the new FK style motors just coming out, let's leave motor talk out of this until at least August 15th, when hopefully we will have had more time to digest all of the new offerings.

[Tex]

YEEEEHAAAA!!!!

I'm SO there! Gotta start working on my CFO, though. Mid-October works great for me as I can't get free until after mid-September. Gotta get the iron going! Thanks, Mike!

[da cat]

Will you be running East Coast Div 3 rules? What time do you think you will start the racing? What are your weekly hours? Very interested.

Felix Glorioso.

[gascarnut]

Hand-out motors would be a good idea for an event of this magnitude, IMO.

Other than that, and perhaps the issue of legal bodies and a weight limit, there's so little difference in the rules from one group to the next that everyone should be happy.

Personally, I would like to see no minimum weight limit.

[TSR]

Because of the unfortunate drift between East and West D3 rules, hand-out motors could be the way to equalize chances to all.
F1 chassis/body rules are also different (width), the west running narrower cars.

[Ron Hershman]

Because of the unfortunate drift between East and West D3 rules, hand-out motors could be the way to equalize chances to all.
F1 chassis/body rules are also different (width), the west running narrower cars.

Handout motors: yes!!!!

Chassis width difference???? Sounds like one group will be building new chassis. After all, it's scratchbuilding, right???

[tonyp]

Let everyone run the rules they run at home. Let the best format prevail. It is suppose to be for fun right? I'd hate to see it get like "Pro" racing... Maybe then after the race the best ideas could be put together for a national set of rules...

[Ron Hershman]

I am liking this suggestion...

[Noose]

I agree with Tony. Essentially the rules are the same for Can-Am and F1 with some minor differences. So, let's do it with each area running their rules and use this as the platform to formulate one set.

[MSwiss]

Will you be running East Coast Div 3 rules? What time do you think you will start the racing? What are your weekly hours? Very interested.

Monday-Friday 10 AM-9 PM
Saturday-10 AM-till the last guy unhooks his controller(usually about 10:30-11:00 PM)
Sunday-call 708-203-8003
The above is my cell # and it's always good to call during the week as I may be dropping off mail orders
at the P.O. or grabbing a quick sandwich.

[Pappy]

I like that idea too and am going to do my best to make it to the race. Uhhhhh Hershman, can I ride with you?

[MSwiss]

Let everyone run the rules they run at home. Let the best format prevail. It is suppose to be for fun right? I'd hate to see it get like "Pro" racing... Maybe then after the race the best ideas could be put together for a national set of rules...

Our vintage rules are way different but we will be running a more true D3 in the near future now that I'm winding down on track construction (I'll get some updated photo's up soon).

What I need now is racers confirming the date is fine and that barring disaster, they will be here.
There's no point in making "compromise" rules if one of the coasts will not have at least 3-4 racers showing.
There appears to be 3-4 semi-major differences in the rules. If both coasts are well represented, I might flip a coin while there are a lot of witnesses here during Saturday night racing. The "winning" coast would get first pick of what
coast specific rule they would want. The "losing" coast would get second and third pick and the "winning" coast would then get the fourth pick.
The only coast-specific rule I would abolish is if the East Coast is still not allowing the narrowing of tires.
I don't want to make guys have to buy or change to harder tires if track conditions tighten up.
The good news is that the flat track, like the King, seems to require very little spray and once broken in, stays stable.

[Ron Hershman]

I like that idea too and am going to do my best to make it to the race. Uhhhhh Hershman, can I ride with you?

Sounds like a plan, Butch.

October works for me.

[Ron Hershman]

Mike,

What if the date was the same weekend as the Hobby Show in Chicago??? That might work well for Tony P.

Is the Hobby Show in Chicago this year????

[Tex]

After a board meeting with my CFO (that is, drinking beer with my wife at our breakfast table), I will definitely be there. It is only unknown HOW I will get there. If my wife accompanies me, we will drive the 900+ miles to Chicago; if she doesn't come along, I'm flying.

[Noose]

I have to check my schedule but I would love to be there. Maybe get my wife to make the trip, too. We were looking at a race here that weekend but it hasn't been firmly scheduled yet.

[Mark Wampler]

I don't want to make guys have to buy or change to harder tires if track conditions tighten up.

When you think of it, those old Riggen tires four decades ago were a lot narrower than todays tires. Last race at BPR, I had to slice them or I would begin to hop around the corners, yikes.

[MSwiss]

Maybe get my wife to make the trip too.

Wives and significant others are encouraged to come. I'm 99% sure my fiancee, Jackie, will be available as a tour guide for shopping and/or culture. She's equally adept at both.

[MSwiss]

What if the date was the same weekend as the Hobby Show in Chicago??? That might work well for Tony P.

Is the Hobby Show in Chicago this year????

The iHobby Expo is the following weekend. I've already committed to hold events in conjunction with it. Also, I plan quite a few races for the "Sano" so I doubt Tony could run them all and still be of any value to Trinity at iHobby which is about 30 minutes away (unless Ernie lets him use the Trinity company copter ).

[Cheater]

Jackie will be available as a tour guide for shopping and/or culture. She's equally adept at both.

Heck, Mike, what woman ISN'T adept at shopping? You surely didn't need to even mention that!

Hmm, might have to make a drive North in October...

Mike, I've spent the day in Chicago on Thanksgiving and I can't say the weather was anything I'd want to experience again: 30 degrees with a 30-40 mph wind. Brrr...

But you're guaranteeing better weather for mid-October, right?

[don.siegel]

Hi Greg,

Indian Summer - guaranteed! I remember that from my Chicago days. Unless of course it's 35° with -10 wind chill factor, which could happen too - both in the same day sometime!

Don

[Pappy]

30 degrees with a 30-40 mph wind. Brrr...

30 degrees you say. You can always tell a southern boy, but you can't tell him much. I'm taking my shorts and undershorts of course.

[Pappy]

Keith,

Ron and I are planning a D3 race in November in Columbus, OH. Hope you can make it.