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#26 Danny Zona

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Posted 11 November 2023 - 02:31 PM

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Test, test, test, and go test some more.
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Posted 11 November 2023 - 02:46 PM

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Posted 11 November 2023 - 05:58 PM

5 heats in, 4 on the same lap, DZ one lap back.

 

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Posted 11 November 2023 - 06:09 PM

7 heats in.

 

3 on the same lap. 5th place 2 laps back.

 

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Posted 11 November 2023 - 06:56 PM

Top 3 within same lap a few feet apart. Jimmy won by inches over Weaver and Matt about 7 feet back.


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#31 MSwiss

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Posted 11 November 2023 - 06:57 PM

Matt Bruce finishes on Black, but hangs on for the win.

 

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Posted 11 November 2023 - 07:09 PM

I watched the main in the pro coupe class yesterday and the F1 today.

 

They were as good as any sporting event I have seen in a long time. 


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Posted 11 November 2023 - 09:46 PM

The system was wrong. Jimmy won, Weaver 2nd, Matt 3rd.
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Posted 11 November 2023 - 09:53 PM

I was watching it and Jimmy and Weaver were in front of Matt on the track when the power went off. I was wondering what was going on. Looks right now.

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Posted 11 November 2023 - 10:01 PM

The system was wrong. Jimmy won, Weaver 2nd Matt 3rd

 

I figured there must have been a crash I missed at the end to let Matt back by for the win, but not so. 

 

Still a great race. 


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Posted 11 November 2023 - 10:01 PM

The system was wrong. Jimmy won, Weaver 2nd Matt 3r

 

I was wondering what the heck happened.

 

I remembered seeing Jimmy getting by Matt with less than a minute and Weaver shortly after.

 

I thought maybe they both got knocked off near the end.


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Posted 11 November 2023 - 11:16 PM

I wonder if he software developer can explain how such a glitch can occur at such a critical time?

 

Great close race!

 

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Posted 12 November 2023 - 12:51 AM

I believe the computer is estimating based on lap times and possibly lane. The race was literally decided in the last 2 seconds.
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Posted 12 November 2023 - 10:05 AM

From reading Carsten's explanation how the system works, my uneducated guess is that it got fooled by Matt finishing on a slower lane and his valiant effort to stay ahead and never falling off in that effort. 


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Posted 12 November 2023 - 11:28 AM

Can Am

 

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Posted 12 November 2023 - 01:12 PM

Jimmy Williams shatters the 4.700 track record he previously held.

 

Big thanks to Dennis Dominey / DDS Products for sending me a pic of the Q sheets.

 

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Posted 12 November 2023 - 01:46 PM

I guess I should be man enough to admit when I have made a mistake.

My apologies to Jimmy Williams, John Weaver, and Matt Bruce.
 
Up to the end-of-race-time, and start of the run-out period, the system displayed the correct data with Jimmy as winner:
 
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However after the end of the 2 second run-out period, an incorrect zone estimation was applied to black lane (Matt Bruce).

The car passed after end-of-time, in the Run-Out period, and should have been credited with a ".00" zone estimate, as did Blue and Purple.

For a yet unknown reason, the system estimated "0.31" which unfortunatly put Black/Matt as winner. That is, of course, not correct.
 
To have correct results, you should always use the function of "Manual zone correction."
 
LapMaster%20finish%20photo%20end.png
 
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Posted 12 November 2023 - 05:13 PM

I'm finally out of the hospital.
 
Let's fix this so it can be watched here.
 

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#44 MSwiss

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Posted 12 November 2023 - 05:56 PM

With my 4th and 5th birthday party this weekend, I haven't had a lot of time to watch the racing, but the C Main looks like it was a good race with 6th place only 6 laps behind the leader.

 

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Posted 12 November 2023 - 07:37 PM

The computer says Jimmy Williams won in Can-Am.

 

can-am.jpg

 

But it kinda depends on how you look at it. Jimmy's is the car in the orange lane and John Weaver's is in white.

 

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What a race!


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Posted 12 November 2023 - 07:40 PM

Just when you though they couldn't top their close finishes.

 

Noose said they gave Jimmy the win.

 

IMO, that is correct because his car is on the inside on both of the 2 turns before the lap counter.


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Posted 12 November 2023 - 07:47 PM

Yeah, Mike, we need those hand-built motors so we get some closer finishes! LOL. It doesn't get any better than this! :)


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Posted 12 November 2023 - 07:51 PM

Just when you though they couldn't top their close finishes.

 

Noose said they gave Jimmy the win.

 

IMO, that is correct because his car is on the inside on both of the 2 turns before the lap counter.

 

But John ran him down at the end and John's car is closer to the straight than Jimmy's.

 

I am not arguing with the results.. Just saying it could have gone either way. 


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Posted 12 November 2023 - 08:00 PM

Neither of the things you mention matter.

 

Jimmy's car clearly went farther in 24 minutes.

 

When Grand Raceway did both of their Hasse King tracks in the '80s, Csaba S., an architect, marked the sections correctly, using arcs, vs 90 degree perpendicular lines to the slot.


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Posted 12 November 2023 - 08:04 PM

Never mind, forget I said a thing.

 

But what does it matter that Jimmy was inside corner in two turns on the other end if the track?


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