The pan down stops are so much cleaner looking
Husting-inspired 1968 anglewinder for commercial tracks
#26
Posted 10 March 2024 - 06:54 PM
#27
Posted 10 March 2024 - 10:54 PM
Wow, you totally nailed the look of the original car with a drive train transplant ... looks awesome!
#28
Posted 11 March 2024 - 08:19 PM
I agree with you Martin.
Thanks Larry.
To finish up the motor I installed Versitec magnets, Mura Semi-Can shim and Certus top and bottom shims:
Below is a link to my post in my First Pro anglewinder race thread that shows my process that's been working well for me:
My decision to use a can drive and clockwise timed motor like Gene Husting did turned out to be problematic. A Lenz/Mura arm from the first quarter of 1968 should look like this "hand grenade" arm with thick laminations, soldered and untied comm wires:
I looked through LOTS of early thick lamination arms and, as I expected, most were counterclockwise timed. But what made things worse was almost all had a short armature shaft on the can end.
Rather than shelve the project or use a crap-O-la Mabuchi armature in what's supposed to be a commercial track terror, I'm installing a "place holder armature".
This is a late 1968 (at the earliest) Mura/Lenz Team Cukras style arm. These have the thin laminations but still have the fiber insulators (instead of powder coating) and the comm wires are welded and tied:
I'll keep looking for a more "korrect" arm but in the mean time I can finish the car and "see it move".
I installed the 26D shunted brushes into the endbell first and then installed the endbell into the motor:
The brush springs went on easily and the motor is finished:
Time to build up the roller..........
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#29
Posted 12 March 2024 - 07:38 PM
The finished roller. I added piano wire springs to the pans as was often done on the early floppy pan cars:
Cox guide with Cobra braid and Marklin train wire.
Rear wheels are "mythical" super wide Russkit's in lieu of the nearly unobtainable Weldun and pre-telescope style Associated. Fronts are polished RVM or REHco RVM style depending on who you ask:
My favorite view of the "wild, wild pan thing".
Time for a body.........
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#30
Posted 12 March 2024 - 07:55 PM
Looks good Rick! If the fronts are magnesium, they're genuine RVMs. Rehcos are aluminum. I believe the rubber was different too. Lou del Rosario, who recently passed away was somehow responsible for bringing the RVMs to market. I forget the whole story.
I intend to live forever! So far, so good.
#31
Posted 13 March 2024 - 12:29 AM
Looks amazing Rick and you're right, the underside is one of the best views! So, Lola T70?
#32
Posted 13 March 2024 - 12:24 PM
Bill, the front wheels were not corroded like magnesium usually is and they polished up like aluminum but I'm not sure.
This is the body I'll be using Larry. Dynamic Team Captain Jack Garcia used one to take 4th place in the first USRRA/MC&S race of 1968 on Feb 24th.
The second race of the series in April was the famous first anglewinder race:
Here is the body. Dynamic had 2 versions with the same part number. I believe this is the 2nd gen with the downdraft engine intake detail.
The other version has side draft Weber carbs like their Lola T70 roadster body:
The body seems almost shrink wrapped around the chassis:
"Low and Wide" it certainly is!
Our weather is going to be a "taste of spring" tomorrow and I hope to get the body in paint.
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#33
Posted 13 March 2024 - 09:34 PM
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Paul Wolcott
#34
Posted 14 March 2024 - 01:21 AM
Here comes the sun Happy painting Rick.
Nice fit on the body too.
#35
Posted 14 March 2024 - 03:40 PM
Thanks Pablo.
Low 60's today Martin but it's supposed to be low 70's tomorrow. So today I'm just going to paint the various accoutrements.
We have a Revell "smiley face" driver head with an aluminum tubing neck added, aluminum tube exhaust pipes, aluminum rod roll bar and the Dynamic interior included with the body kit. I also made up a sheet styrene dash panel to cover up the way Dynamic factory butchers theirs:
I mentioned another version of the McLaren MkIII body with side draft Weber engine detail but forgot to include a picture.........so here it is:
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#36
Posted 15 March 2024 - 07:56 PM
I got these decals from Pattos Place:
I hope to use them for this particular livery.
Sorry about the poor pictures but it's the best I could find. And speaking of finding pictures of a McLaren MkIII, I had much better luck when I Googled McLaren M1B:
Painting went without a hitch. I used Testors rattle can enamel flat red and chrome:
Time to break out the "shaky" paint brushes for detailing.............
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#37
Posted 15 March 2024 - 10:15 PM
Rick, did you ever try detailing with a paint pen?
I intend to live forever! So far, so good.
#38
Posted 16 March 2024 - 11:25 AM
on the home stretch now. Great looking paint work.
#39
Posted 16 March 2024 - 01:18 PM
No Bill, I haven't tried paint pens..........maybe I should.
Home stretch indeed Martin. I love this project but I have a special one I'm doing next. I can't wait to start it.
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#40
Posted 18 March 2024 - 10:26 AM
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#41
Posted 21 March 2024 - 07:47 PM
I finished the body but changed my mind on wheel inserts for the project. I found a really cool website of custom resin cast stuff from Australia.
Here's the link to it:
I've ordered 2 different "McLaren-ish" style wheel inserts and they are on their way:
Hopefully the inserts will get here soon. In the meantime here's the finished body:
Looking forward to get this puppy on the chassis.
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#42
Posted 02 May 2024 - 03:59 PM
The wheel inserts arived from The Parts Box in Australia and they are quite nice (link in the post above):
That finishes this car until I can find a period correct armature to replace the later period arm I put in.
Here's the story on that from earlier in this thread:
My decision to use a can drive and clockwise timed motor like Gene Husting did turned out to be problematic. A Lenz/Mura arm from the first quarter of 1968 should look like this "hand grenade" arm with thick laminations, soldered and untied comm wires:
I looked through LOTS of early thick lamination arms and, as I expected, most were counterclockwise timed. But what made things worse was almost all had a short armature shaft on the can end.
Rather than shelve the project or use a crap-O-la Mabuchi armature in what's supposed to be a commercial track terror, I'm installing a "place holder armature".
This is a late 1968 (at the earliest) Mura/Lenz Team Cukras style arm. These have the thin laminations but still have the fiber insulators (instead of powder coating) and the comm wires are welded and tied:
I'll keep looking for a more "korrect" arm but in the mean time I can finish the car and "see it move".
More on the armature in a bit but first here's the finished Gene Husting inspired McLaren M1B:
I mounted a pair of these modern tires from Mid-America Slot Car Store on the car to test it:
ALLOY HUB TIRES .880" DIA. x .800" W TIRE - 1/8" AXLE (WONDER SOFT)
With modern sticky rubber and that hairy armature the car was absolutely ballistic on my home track. It was over a full second faster than previously tested cars.......and that's without really pushing it. I was afraid the thing was going to literally take off.
If I still had access to a Blue King I could add some weight and let her rip. But with this early style lightweight chassis and a later period ballistic motor it's just not a good match. Exciting for sure, but not a good match.
In fact, this is the drivers smiling face before the test drive:
Afterward he was crying!
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#43
Posted 02 May 2024 - 04:48 PM
Rick, you can perform brain surgery on me if I ever need it
Wheeeeeeeeeeee! The bar is set so high I can't even see it. Like a dwarf looking up the side of a skyscraper
Paul Wolcott
#44
Posted 03 May 2024 - 03:16 PM
Another beauty. Rick never disappoints.
#45
Posted 03 May 2024 - 07:54 PM
Thanks Pablo and James.
It was really fun to build something so different with the motor can part of the chassis.
Rick Thigpen
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#46
Posted 21 May 2024 - 08:35 PM