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#1 Mark Onofri

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Posted 30 June 2024 - 08:05 AM

I'm not sure if I should be in this group or, the body shop. Cheater, it's pretty much like the Corvair but, I'm pretty sure it's gonna be shorter.🤞




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Posted 30 June 2024 - 11:17 PM

If it is vintage and 1/32nd? I would say you are the correct location. :victory:


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Posted 02 July 2024 - 01:39 PM

If you say so, I'm good with dat

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Posted 02 July 2024 - 06:14 PM

This started with my just wanting to remove the yellow stripe* and the mold separation lines. I'm having a little difficulty finding the picture so, this should give you a idea of what it was. I've never seen paint applied as thick as it was. Actually used a X-Acto #2 knife to remove it.
Then, I looked at it toooooo long and.....
Tune in tomorrow when you hear me say
"WTF was I thinking"
*Technology in action

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Posted 04 July 2024 - 09:50 PM

Hopefully your enjoying the fourth.
The quality of the Monogram plastic is far better than the Aurora garbage
The only tings I couldn't live with were the dimples where the screw posts are.
Now for the paint. One would think that after the Corvair, I might have learned something. 😶
Anyone care to guess what colour(s) I'm going to use?

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Posted 04 July 2024 - 10:23 PM

Spot putty the divots & paint it red. Baking soda & super glue makes a good cheap putty too.


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Posted 11 July 2024 - 04:11 PM

The weather has been 90°+ with a heat index of 104°+. Not to mention the humidity. Obviously not the best weather for squirting enamel.
Stay tuned.....

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Posted 12 July 2024 - 05:34 AM

"Anyone care to guess what colour(s) I'm going to use?"

 

ME ME ME Sir. How about this color to be different?

 

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Opps, that's not the same car is it. Oh well I thought I was on to something.


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Posted 12 July 2024 - 09:11 AM

Actually, humidity helps enamel. Lets it flow out better. Lacquer likes dry air. Humidity makes it blush.



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Posted 12 July 2024 - 10:48 AM

I will take another go at a color Mark O may chose  :crazy:

 

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Or maybe your basic jet black. Seen on this 250 GTO. Man that looks good :good:

 

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Posted 12 July 2024 - 01:30 PM

Mark, recall that lipstick on a pig is still a pig. :laugh2: I saw a silver 250 GTO a few years ago. It was being filmed by a guy laying down in a pickup body moving just ahead of it, as drove on a shopping center road. I was going into Home Depot as it drove past. 


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Posted 12 July 2024 - 02:54 PM

You are all very close. Billnh, you've got a good memory. Personally, I like pigs with lipstick.
Dave, thanks for the insight on the effects of the temperature/ humidity.
Martin, how did you know that's the next car on the chopping block?
Always liked this combo, yes, it's a GTO but, no one will know if you don't want to let them know.
(Enough Zappa already)

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Posted 12 July 2024 - 09:20 PM

Fly just released this David Piper 250LM. He also raced a GTO in his green livery, but no 250GT.

 

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Posted 13 July 2024 - 09:26 PM

Here's something to hold you over while I fight with the masking.
As far as I know, the 250LM had spokes, not the newer five spoke ones shown in the last post. Still looks good but, nothing like spokes.

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Posted 14 July 2024 - 09:32 AM

I have a 1/24th scale 250 GTO body, (yours is a GTO/64), not sure what make. Not in great shape, but good enough for a start on one of these;

 

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330 LMB. A 250 GTO back to the "A" pillar, a 250GT Lusso from there on back. Very unique car, built to run the 1963 Le Mans. Back in the late 1970s, I had a chance to crawl all over this car while it was at Roy Payment's shop. Took a lot of measurements and made some rudimentary drawings. 



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Posted 14 July 2024 - 02:19 PM

Dave, I was expecting you to say you owned one! Truly a unique one!
For those people who are tired of banging their head against the wall. I'm pretty sure it's applicable to a Lola and a lotus, and probably countless utters. Of course, I'll f*** with it until the cow leaves home.

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Posted 15 July 2024 - 01:08 AM

I decided to be a little more scientific. According to my slide ruler, I can use~=(2) two teaspoons of product.
So:
(1) one teaspoon of paint
(1/4) one quarter teaspoon of hardener
(1) one teaspoon of reducer.
I wiped it down with a little lacquer thinner and, I could feel it drag from softening the plastic. Sprayed it@ ~=7PSI
{If you can believe a harbor freight gauge}.
When very smoothly. I can't believe that I'm actually going to let it dry for more than 30 seconds.
Ironically, I just re- painted the yellow stripe that I had removed.,🙄

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Posted 15 July 2024 - 01:13 PM

Mmmmmmmm, Smooth and shiny. I'm going to (try) let it cure longer than I usually do(10 minutes).
Be back soon.😴

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Posted 15 July 2024 - 05:57 PM

My slide ruler is a little rusty. I had waaay more paint than I needed.
After a few hours in the 96°+ sun, It was enough for me. I reduced the amount by 50%. I'm not really happy with the lack of shinyness.The photo with the dots are spots😂 where it might need more filter. I'll let it bake and shoot it with more hardener later.

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Posted 15 July 2024 - 08:50 PM

Mine, one is aluminum, the other bamboo, If you put a bit of baby powder on yours it'll slide better as well as smell better too. Do you know what the 'P' scale is used for?  :laugh2:


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Posted 15 July 2024 - 09:06 PM

The 96°+ temperature really accelerated the drying time and, I'm impatient. A light wet sanding with 2500 and I'll give it another shot, with a little more hardener.
IDFK? Is that what they call"orange peels"? Weirdest part is, it's just the top.
After the Corvair from hell, I know I can rub it out with,rubbing compound (duh).
All in all, it's going waaaaaaay smother than the last one.😵 Must be progressing.

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Posted 15 July 2024 - 10:30 PM

Billnh, LMFAO 🤣 I am clueless as to how to use it. I bought it because it was with a bunch of mechanical templates and,hey, they designed the Black Bird with one.🙄
The paint has actually flattened out quite a bit. I'm confident that rubbing compound will work.

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Posted 16 July 2024 - 06:58 AM

They can be useful for resizing things, such as either enlarging dimensions or decreasing them for something such as a model or a drawing.  Actually, today's hand-held calculators antiquated the slide rule. Slide rules were vital during the early 60s when I was in high school.


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Posted 16 July 2024 - 07:34 AM

when i started college in '68, our first math classroom had a big long slide rule attached on hook-and-eyes above the blackboards (which actually were black) across the front of the room to make sure everybody knew it's ins and outs. we called ours "pain stirrers" or "excaliber" for the way they hung on your belt. i still have a couple around somewhere, and once in a blue moon would actually use one til about the turn of the century when i only needed like three sig fig's. the bamboo ones are the best IMO. 

but i don't remember a P scale. unless you're kidding.  

 

[and the first sentence we learned in high school French was "le tableau noir est vert"- the blackboard is green. so we knew that that college math classroom was pretty old.]  


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Posted 16 July 2024 - 08:22 AM

Mine, one is aluminum, the other bamboo, If you put a bit of baby powder on yours it'll slide better as well as smell better too. Do you know what the 'P' scale is used for?  :laugh2:

 

No. Me neither. Think of things that start with "P" that need to be measured.  :crazy:  We used them in high school, but not since. I've forgotten most of the operations.







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