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[Bill from NH]

Hard plastic bodies?

[Mark Onofri]

At Speedies? No, I can't bring myself to race 1/24 hard bodies. IDK,it just seems like 1/24 should be vacuum/blow formed bodies. 1/32 yes,1/24 no. Probably stems from the fact that 1/32 scale is more home oriented. IMO
I've been screwing around with the stripe.
Stay tuned
PS: At least, this time, I have gotten the paint to stick! A major milestone!!!

[Mark Onofri]

After a little screwing around, I've got colours I (think) can live with. It's (IMO) easier to add a darker colour to a lighter one, usually. I've found with acrylic paint, I always come out with the same f'd up colour that is so far from wat it should be that I limit it to lightening or darkening. The colours in the centre of the test blank are what it should look like.
Note to self:
Test results BEFORE you shoot.
Here's some other propaganda to hold you over. It might be a minute before I shoot it yet again.
Billnh, this is (second photo)one of only two 1/24 scale HB's that I have. The other,a obligatory Chaparral 2D

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[Dave Crevie]

One thing that not everyone knows is that that if you mix enough colors together, you end up with gray. The vehicle has color. That is why paint stores that mix paint use a tint rather than another color to get the final hue. And why mixing two paints might not give the results you are looking for. You can buy tints at an automotive paint store. It's how I came up with some of the wild colors I applied to custom cars in the 1960's and 70's.

[Bill from NH]

Mark, are you using a primer of some sort on that red Ferrari body before you spray your color coats of yellow & blue?

[Mark Onofri]

Primer? I don't need no stinking primer!!!
I thought about it for this one.
Dave, exactly what I was talking about.

[Mark Onofri]

The stripe is approaching straight. There was a woman who was in Detroit or Kenosha who would take the paint scrapings from the spray booths and polish them into jewelry. Kinda psychedelic. The clear piece is actually clear coat! In person, looks like glass and is as hard.

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[Bill from NH]

That could be the root of your painting problems.  Prime & then spray the whole car yellow. The primer kills the red from showing through light colors. When the yellow dries, mask off the stripes & areas you want left yellow. Then spray the whole car with blue or whatever color you choose. Finally, remove your masking & you're left with a painted body that has yellow stripes. This order works for hard bodies. With clear bodies painted on the inside, you want to paint dark colors first to prevent light colors from being backed by darker ones. Sometimes backing the light colors with white or silver helps.

[Mark Onofri]

Thanks Billnh, I am the root of my problems but, I am also the heart of the solution! 🤔 50 years and I still get excited doing this and overlook the obvious.
I've just about got the stripe where I want it. I've had enough for tonight.
Tune in tomorrow when I ask myself:
"How did that happen"

[Martin]

Just my 2 cents. The must for primer will clearly show any imperfections at this stage, then they can be easily be fixed.

 

.....and if you use a light grey or white, your top/color coat will be less, trying to cover red with yellow will require too much paint IMO.

 

I think Bill has got good advice here  

[Mark Onofri]

A little late but, I'll try it on the main colour.
I went back to my old way of masking. You can barely see the glass under the tape. Try it.
Does it look straight? Might be a little wider on the roof.

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[Martin]

[Bill from NH]

Have you tried "Frog" tape yet? It comes in green & yellow. The yellow is for applying to sensitive surfaces. They both supposedly contain a chemical that practically eliminates paint bleed under.

[Mark Onofri]

Haven't yet Billnh. If I'm not mistaken, after it's applied,it is water activated?
Martin, you look like your in shock! Nothing's shocking!
There might be hope for me. I realized that I had neglected to affix the front valance! It might be bassackwords but, I'll prime the stripe before I shoot it. And then the bulk of the car. I'll even go as far as to mix flat white and black for a primer grey. Don't think I've got flat brown and red so, red oxide is out. Flat black surprisingly isn't the same as hotrod primer. Disagree if you want but, I can tell the difference.
I've measured the stripe 9 ways to Sunday and it's straight. I'm going to drift a little/lot in the next post.
And now,a word from the sponsor.

[Bill from NH]

I haven't used Frog tapes yet. But the moisture in the paints helps activate the PaintBlock technology.  I like the tan 3M tapes as well as clear & opaque vinyl shelf paper. I tried the blue 3M painters tape on one body & did not like it. That tape's adhesive was too thick to burnish well & evenly. The tape & vinyl I use does need good burnishing, but I've never had paint under-bleed with either.

 

I saw the yellow "Frog" tape used in a recent video from an English model maker. I do intend to try some & have seen it sold in some local stores.

[Dave Crevie]

Certainly vinyl is the best masking medium I have used. Plus it can be cut on a Cricut machine. Most public libraries have machines in their copier department. Check with them. It makes the whole operation so much easier.

[Mark Onofri]

By popular demand,Cities on Flame..... Ummmm, no, that's not it.....
Oh, I remember. Grey primer. Ok,ok,ok, I see all of your point. Had I been a little more patient,it wouldn't be necessary. Noooooo hardener in the printer!!!!
Don't touch that dial.

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[Mad Mark]

If you are having a hard time keeping stripe spacing consistent you can get some 3M “fine line” masking tape that is around a 1/8” thick. you can lay those out next to each other depending on thickness you want and use them as spacers. Then stick your mask right next to them then remove the spacing tape when you are done and you have perfectly spaced lines.

[Bill from NH]

The blue vinyl 3M tapes also comes in 1/16" width too.  I got it & 1/8" at a local auto body supply shop. I would imagine Amazon has it too.

[Mark Onofri]

Ferrari 275P Monogram, with trompe l'oeil I don't know how to post this as a link 😑
I'll reply to you two shortly.

[Mark Onofri]

Yep. There's a smaller one floating around here somewhere. Talk about extremes! From 2" to 0.125" I'm beginning to see the benefits of using primer, sometimes. More on this later. I'm currently primering everything in my sight.

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[Mark Onofri]

Shot this last night. Nice but, if you look on the driver's side just below the hood,a divot!!! NFI!!!
Your not really seeing over spray, it's just a figment of your imagination.
PS: DUH, passenger side. Forgot about the driver on the right

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[Mark Onofri]

Waiting for paint to dry. I can hardly contain myself while I watch it dry. Even with hardener, it's still a wait. I can't say it's the most fun I've ever had with my clothes on. But, it's better than,than,WTFDIK?
Only eight (8) or ten(10) more of these 1/32 Monogram cars to go. It occurred to me that the solution to indecision is to conquer it one drawer at a time. Problem is, what drawer to start with. 😬 Luckily, I started here before I figured out what/how to approach a starting point.
Tune in next week when we just might have some progress (forward)

[Mark Onofri]

Have you ever wondered how liquid masking would work on a stripe or over the first colour? I have. Let's find out. But first, by popular demand, primer.

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[Mark Onofri]

I'll actually leave it alone for tonight. Or will I?🤔

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