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#1 Noose

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 12:27 PM

I posted this in another thread and thought it might be good to create a separate thread / post for it. It works for me and it sure does help prevent motor and bushing burn-outs! I have never lost a gear and always have smooth gear meshes with both hypoid and non-hypoid set-ups. Showing how to do it is good and maybe we can do a little video on YouTube or something.

Note: This applies to the most commonly used Parma crown gears which are plastic. It won't hold true for metal gears.

1) Make sure the axle spins completely free in the bushings or bearings.

2) I make sure the fat end of the angled pinion is towards the motor and the tapered end is toward the crown gear. The teeth of the crown should touch the pinion just ahead of the rear of the pinion (the fat part) . Some like it in the front but I have seen more guys blow gears that way.

3) Set the crown against the pinion and lightly lock the set screw.

4) Turn the axle to see if there is some play all around. Almost all of the Parma crown gears are a bit out of perfect roundness. You need to find the high spot and that is the spot you want to make sure is set with the right amount of play.

5) The crown should just move slightly in this spot. If not, use your hand to turn the crown away from the pinion a bit and check again until you feel you have it right.

6) Lock the crown down and check the play all around again.

7) With a power pack hooked up, turn up the power until the motor starts to turn over slowly. Take a lighter and put the flame along the teeth and pinion for a short period of time. You can literally hear the the sound get quieter.

Do not overheat of course or you are going to melt the gear.

Works every time for me.

Also, I keep my gears separate. Gears used in hypoid position with Pro Slots or Falcons are kept separate from those aren't and separate from those used on TSRs, which turn the opposite way.

Added note: This is all meaningless if your chassis is weak in the back and you slam into someone/something or vice versa. Minimizing the chance of a bent bracket will always ensure the gear mesh stays good.

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 12:31 PM

Number seven..."Take a lighter..."

That's a new one on me but a good one, thanks.

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 12:41 PM

I suggest a torch lighter like for cigars, works better as you have more control of the flame. A Bic style's flame is blown out of the way by the turbulence created by the gear and tires.

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 12:48 PM

Do your new ones have Lizards on them now instead of skulls? :laugh2:

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 12:55 PM

Still skulls...

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:05 PM

I added he following to the above

Added note: This is all meaningless if your chassis is weak in the back and you slam into someone/something or visa versa. Minimizing the chance of a bent bracket will always ensure the gear mesh stays good.

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:13 PM

Thanks for the tip, Noose. Now I know why a lot of cars sound so much smoother than mine.
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Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:23 PM

Added note: This is all meaningless if your chassis is weak in the back

And of course it is all meaningless if you are using Sonics or some other form of metal gear... ;)

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:42 PM

So noted above. Thanks, Dennis.

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 01:24 PM

Great info, Joe!

Didn't I read on here somewhere a long time ago about using toothpaste to help smooth out the gear mesh? Not sure if this was for metal gears or plastic? Maybe somebody recalls more then me? :blush:

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 01:28 PM

Toothpaste does not help much on plastic gears, but will help a bit on bronze or aluminum.

And of course, you need to use a white toothpaste - clear gels won't do anything except make the car smell a bit better. ;)

I have used Sonic aluminum drag gears in a hypoid inline bracket and they work fine after a little break-in with toothpaste or a very fine lapping paste, like a jeweler's paste. The deal with them though is to use the biggest crown gear you can for the ratio you want, so that the teeth do not have to be mutilated as much to adapt to the hypoid offset.
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Posted 07 January 2010 - 01:32 PM

And of course, you need to use a white toothpaste - clear gels won't do anything except make the car smell a bit better.

:laugh2: :laugh2:

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 01:58 PM

Take a lighter and put the flame along the teeth and pinion for a short period of time.

Noose, since I don't smoke and I don't have a lighter, can I use a soldering iron? :) :laugh2: ;)

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 02:14 PM

Get Pablo's mini torch. :laugh2:

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 02:46 PM

Noose, since I don't smoke and I don't have a lighter, can I use a soldering iron?

Make sure you grab hold of the hot end of the iron real tight. :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 02:53 PM

I might add, that I spin the motor just as slow as possible without stalling. Now how to clean up the black soot afterwards? :laugh2: :)
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Posted 07 January 2010 - 03:05 PM

If you have black soot you have the flame too close and the motor turning too slowly. A small amount might appear but it should rub off with your finger when done.

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 03:30 PM

For non-smokers who don't have lighters (but lighter fluid :D ) use matches, but maybe investing in a throw-away lighter would make sense.

The speed of motor spin up might be up for some conjecture. It seems that a faster speed with a hot, soft plastic gear could be distorted during break in as opposed to the pinon properly forming an imprint or cast in the plastic.

Yep, I think a YouTube video would be a good idea, :)
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Posted 07 January 2010 - 08:04 PM

We use a heat gun, It's much easier to control the heat, and no open flame in the house. I think a hair dryer on high might work also.

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 08:36 PM

Thanks, Joe! I'll have to try that.

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 09:23 PM

Very carefully. :laugh2:

Sorry, I could not help myself. :blush:

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 05:55 PM

Sometimes I use valve grinding compound made for real scale engines.

A lighter? That's a new one.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 11:42 PM

Just for you guys that have never tried heating the gears with a lighter ( I use a BBQ Bic).

Yesterday I put a new pinion and crown on my 1/32 car. At 5 volts it was showing .43 amps no load and after I did the BBQ on the crown it was showing .39 amps draw and the car was very smooooth... It is also a hypoid set.

Note you can also use the amp reading to get the best setup on your rear axle bushings!

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 11:48 PM

What is hypoid? :unsure: :unsure:

Somebody had to ask. :rolleyes:

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 11:02 AM

Hey Zip...

Hypoid (as we use it here) is the arm shaft centerline is below the axle shaft centerline to allow the motor to sit lower in the chassis and flat. You heat the crown to allow it to re-mold (so to speak) so it will have a nice mesh on the pinion.

NOTE: The plastic 1/32 cars have gears molded in hypoid already to allow for the misalignment.

This is a matter of personal feelings, as some do not use hypoid and some do. I do.

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 12:32 PM

I use a different method that does not require a lighter, but relies on the most important point of a crown and pinion mesh: that the crown gear NEVER crowds the pinion under hard cornering, something that WILL happen if the lash is not correctly set up. MOST racers adjust their gear mesh from the WRONG side of the crown gear, ending with a gear mess.

1) Do what Joe recommends as far as the axle being completely free in the bearings. "Resistance is futile" said the Borg. So it is, if you want to be robbed of power. Bearing alignment is critical. I always solder one and leave the other "free", then adjust and solder that side after everything else is set. Same with ball bearings but i use Loctite for those, one side at a time.

Joe also points out the necessity to solder the pinion so that the "cone" points to the outside of the shaft. It sounds funny but indeed, I have witnessed backwards installation more than once. It WILL function, but not too well. Mind blowing... ;)

2) Affix the wheels and whatever needed spacers to the axle, with the crown gear left free in the center. I recommend to ALWAYS run at least one spacer on each side, regardless of how thin, because it will reduce overall friction with either plain or ball bearings. Set the side play to a minimum but make SURE that there IS enough of it so that the axle turns freely. To adjust, tighten one wheel permanently, then tighten the other lightly and rotate it until the side slop is at its minimum while the axle still rotates freely, and tighten in steps until happiness is achieved.

3) As Joe recommends, lightly tighten the crown gear after setting it right against the pinion, so that you can still rotate it by hand.

Now is the important step:

- PUSH on the offside wheel (set on the opposite side of the crown's teeth), while holding the armature from moving. Easy to do on a D3 motor with your thumb, not so easy on a PS as there is no room. For this I use a small wood stick through one of the can's holes locking the arm from rotating.

- While holding on both the arm and pushing on the off-side wheel, back the crown gear by twisting it until there is a minimal lash between it and the pinion's teeth.

- Now check that the lash is still the same by rotating the wheel and checking the lash on 360 degrees, while pushing on the offside wheel. If too tight at one spot because the gear is not perfectly round, back the gear just a tad at that spot.

- Tighten the gear's setscrew in sequence until the lash is perfect and the gear does not crowd the pinion when the offside wheel is pushed towards the gear.

In most cases and regardless of a hypoid condition, the gear mesh set that way will be completely silent, with no need for deforming the plastic by heating it. Heating the plastic a second time after it was injected in the original mold will seriously weaken it, so I do not like to do it. I personally prefer the gear to "learn" the pinion and set itself through break-in, but if you are in a hurry or the gear is noisy regardless of your efforts as described above, then the lighter will complete the setup.
I did not fail to note that my little 1/32 scale MATRA had the quietest gear mesh in the race yesterday... :)

Over 3/4 of the cars I check for gear mesh at D3 races appear to have a correct mesh, that is until I push on the offside wheel. You can HEAR these cars cornering silently in one direction, and making gear noise in the other direction. Talk about power loss... ;)

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 01:09 PM

Dokk... so true. I didn't write that about the offset wheel because I usually use that side to check the lash. Thanks for adding that.

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 01:21 PM

I did not fail to note that my little 1/32 scale MATRA had the quietest gear mesh in the race yesterday... smile.gif


Well, did you silence the crowd with a win??? Stealth your way into the winners circle? Sneak onto the podium? wink.gif

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 04:25 PM

Thanks, Barney - much appreciated. :)

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 04:59 PM

Well, did you silence the crowd with a win??? Stealth your way into the winners circle? Sneak onto the podium?


No, the car was all new and needed more sorting out, it could not be pushed without doing all kinds of acrobatics. I think that it is too short and the body used did not work well on it. wink.gif

But it was by far the quietest, meaning that it likely had the best gear mesh. My cars are ALWAYS very quiet and they win and have won their share... no complaints. smile.gif

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 05:26 PM

Dokk, I built your car to 3.250". My car (that was as quiet as yours ;) ) is 3.00".

I have never run tires as narrow as yours were. I think if you would have had another .100" more tire width it would have killed us!

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 05:31 PM

Well, Barn, I have to figure these things out, it has been a long time I raced a brass 1/32 scale car... :)

But the point about setting the gear mesh properly is what is important here. Ron is changing the subject as he often does to create havoc... :laugh2:

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 06:26 PM

Ron is changing the subject as he often does to create havoc... :laugh2:


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Posted 08 September 2010 - 10:15 AM

I have always used your way (locking the arm with your finger to check) of setting gear mesh since you showed me last year but I still heat the gears as I have yet to break one.

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#35 Shooter7mustang

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 08:31 AM

I have a stupid question; sorry I'm still learning.

Which is the "off side wheel"?

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#36 Noose

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 08:36 AM

It is the wheel on the side facing the back of the gear.

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#37 Bill from NH

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 09:51 AM

I guess I haven't been running crown gears long enough to know that either. Thanks. :laugh2:


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#38 Cheater

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 10:06 AM

FWIW, the terms off-side and near-side are most commonly used in the UK in relation to 1:1 cars.

The side nearest the curb is the near-side.

The side away from the curb is the off-side.

Since cars in the UK are RHD and there they drive going forward in the left lane, as opposed to the right lane as in the US, in the UK the near-side is the passenger side of the car and the off-side is the driver's side.

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