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#51 The Bugman

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 10:12 PM

Bugboy,
you and others may want to remember that you are GUESTS of the "D3 clan". ;)

and unfortunately for you phlippy,,you have no say in if i can or cannot race in D3,without us GUESTS there is no D3 racing,we are still allowed to voice our opinions on D3,whether you approve of them or not..
you talk alot of S#*^ here on YOUR BLOG,,please come tell me face to face next time at BPR(in front of Sterrett & the new owner Jim Watterson)that im a guest and because of my opinion i cant race in D3,we all need good laff at your expense.
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 10:41 PM

Life is good and lets race? :laugh2: I wish I had magical powers to erase this mess, but I don't. :laugh2: Bunch of old guys jacking on things that doesn't matter, is this what happens when we become old? :shok:
Where is Toremeister when we need him, I bet he would have some good comments on this to make it clear? Missed ya TORE. ;)


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Posted 16 June 2010 - 10:44 PM

Are you guys fussin' and cussin' about playin' with those silly little electric toy cars?

World Wars have been started over less :laugh2: :laugh2:
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 10:48 PM

The funny thing is when they need to speak up they don't? :blink: :laugh2: I guess they are waiting for the Alpha dog. :shok:
Relax have a glass of wine and go on. ;) I sure hope that I'm not a tread killer? :rolleyes:


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It's our duty to remember the past so we can have a future.

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 11:37 PM

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:04 AM

Dear Paul
I think it's time for you to join the CYBERSPACE specially if you are the HEAD HONCHO for D3? Why should you have individuals talk for
you, :blink: you are a very articulate person and you don't need to have any one else to do the talking for ya RIGHT? :rolleyes:
We as D3 guest need to be able to discusse issues with you when it's needed to, not only at the race track?
Myself I'm fine I just put my little car in the slot and hope for the best. :blush:
But there is times when you need to intervene to say your thoughts about D3 but that's inpossible because we can't reach you.
Like when Flygirl tried to get in touch with you, I know you have seen it but, there is now need for this, is it?
Dear Paul you are the invisuble D3 President of out hobby I sure wish there would be a way to get in touch with you and I'm sure we
would not have issues like this, that is not nessery?
Do you remember this one? Click here There must be a better way to get in touch with you?
Thanks for the loner last time. ;)


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Not a snob in this hobby, after all it will be gone, if we keep on going like we do, and I have nothing to prove so I keep on posting because I have nothing to gain.
It's our duty to remember the past so we can have a future.

Pistol Pete you will always be in my memory.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:31 AM

Dennis, Is everyone a guest in the IRRA as well ? I do not understand what constitutes these outlaw GUESTS ! AND , MIKE KRAVITZ, you must be one of those people they call a crasher !

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:46 AM

Hey Guys! I didn't see any of these tense tendancies will visiting with ya'll at the Checkpoint. I had one little bit of tension aimed at the vitter, I wanted for my little Dave to be available to grab and protech him from this minor this minor flaring but it quickly passed. Afterwards I felt like I was at a family re-union with every-one helping the other. Gus
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 10:07 AM

Those of you who were around BPR before we held our first D-3 event know that I not only invited everybody on the planet to race in D-3 but I remember BEGGING racers to come and try it. So boys, not only have you recieved an un-needed invitation you've also recieved a, begging for you to race, request.Posted Image



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Posted 17 June 2010 - 10:14 AM

Dear Paul
I think it's time for you to join the CYBERSPACE specially if you are the HEAD HONCHO for D3?


If I was the founder of D3, I would be on the down low on Slot Blog. Reason being that I would have enough on my plate to keep the wheels turning, ie keeping good relationships with BP, doing menial tasks of a thankless job like tech table, track cleaning, race directing, building loaner cars and maybe have some time to race myself. I would tend to avoid the clamor and wrangling. I would be monitoring everything that relates to D3 on SlotBlog though. Its not necessary to address everything directly on this venue.




Those who are in tune with God should pray for Paul in directing D3



If there are any major decisions to be made, Keith will let everyone know.


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Posted 17 June 2010 - 11:49 AM

Hi

Remembering the conversations and bench racing lies Paul and I had about modifying flexis for a better appearance...i sort of reject the idea that Paul would NOW say "my way or the highway". It is a pet peeve of his and my own that we get too rigid over the useless details in racing (again this is driven by some people afraid that someone else is faster).

The motor rule was done our of fear. Have we grown up enough that we can just relax and race?

Dunno.

Personally, if you require when I show up from 750 miles away that I buy a NEW motor...fine. Or not. Geeze, lighten up.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:35 PM

Guys, in case you're not aware of it, Paul S. does not have a computer at home and he only "reads" Slotblog posts at work since he's not allowed to do personal communication (posting online) on the work computer. His boss is very strict on company computer usage.
That's the main reason he doesn't post on Slotblog, but he does read the posts.

I find it humorous at times how the banter on Slotblog can be get "serious" even though the discussion sometimes involves perception.

I believe the handout motor rule for the Can Am King races was recently "revised" (although the posted rules were not revised) awhile ago to allow everyone to use any handout motor from a previous King race. The "Big" races (i.e., Checkpoint, Western States) would still invoke the original handout motor rule to provide a more level playing field for those who travel a long distance and don't normally enter our monthly races.

I will talk with Paul (again) on this topic and get the rules revised to reflect the "revised" motor rule.

On another topic, Paul, Mike, PdL, myself and a few others have talked seriously about adding a new racing category for newbies and "challenged" (all thumbs) builders. This new racing class has not been finalized yet, but stay tuned. We all agree we need an introductory racing class to attract new blood. Even some of the oldtimers returning to racing are not builders, so we need to address this.

In addition, 1/32 racing seems to have some support and will be introduced at BP sometime this year.

A final note, keep your calendars open for next summer (probably June). We are planning a big race unlike any other we've had so far. This race will not be at BP, but a well known location which will draw some racers from far away. It will be big and it will be exciting to be a part of. It will be a celebration of our past and present. Almost every racer (past and present) has been a part at one time or another with this racing organization and it's time to reflect on the one common ground we all have in our slot racing history.


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Posted 17 June 2010 - 01:18 PM

Dennis, I am in total support of what you are saying, especially as you are one of the few that was involved in the beginning of D3 as well as the IRRA. Am I wrong or were you not involved in the rules for both groups ? Is not Philippe just the scribe for D3 anyway ? My question is : When will someone dictate what you can and can not race at Pebblestone Raceway ? Just a matter of time....... Vitter, I will sit back with you and watch on this one, 'cause it is gonna get good...... Pass the popcorn!


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Posted 17 June 2010 - 01:25 PM

Keith, also, what happened to Jail Door F1 ? This was a new class that was supposed to be launched and lasted all of one demonstration race ?

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 01:47 PM

Keith, also, what happened to Jail Door F1 ? This was a new class that was supposed to be launched and lasted all of one demonstration race ?

Mill, unfortunately not much interest by the racers since most of the F1's raced were built by a few racers.
If we can get enough racers to have another race, then let's go for it.

By the way Mill, the next Jail Door enduro is at the end of October. We probably need to talk with Paul to get some details of the enduro determined.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 01:50 PM

A guest to race D3? Are you kidding me? I've never felt like a guest at any IRRA event. In fact, I've felt MORE THAN WELCOME by more than one of the IRRA series racing retro cars. I needed a good laugh today! Mike Steube's comments were right on. A very wise man.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 02:53 PM

Keith, I respect you, Paul and Mike . You guys are trying to settle out what challenges that D3 has. But Philippe calling us all guests riles up many of us who feel that we are willing participants in D3 . Without racers, D3 IS NOTHING ! Mc Zero ! Whether D3 is run solely by Paul or not, without racers their is no program. THAT IS WHAT UPSETS PEOPLE. We all pitch in as best we can for the greater good of the racing program. Dennis was around before their was a D3 at BPR. He has been there since the inception of the rebirth of SoCal vintage racing. Many just do not like being made to feel that we are second class citizens, that we should be drinking the Kool Aid. We all love the D3 program for the most part, and we appreciate what the D3 group has done to preserve and grow slot racing. I will continue, as will others, to promote races outside the D3 norm, so as to help grow the Outlaw faction from time to time. This does not mean that I do not respect D3. My Chico Esquela,Alfred E Neumann production of last years Enduro was a success and we had our own rules and regulations. D3 does not have to regulate everything. Lastly, the racing group started at Dennis Samsons' house which kicked off the 1/32 craze of recent weeks was an informal group of guys wanting to play and have fun. Thank you Dennis for getting this jump started.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:34 PM

Can't believe it four pages about handout motors? :blink:


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United we stand and divided we fall, the Legends are complete.
I'm racing the best here at BP but Father time is much better then all of us united.
Not a snob in this hobby, after all it will be gone, if we keep on going like we do, and I have nothing to prove so I keep on posting because I have nothing to gain.
It's our duty to remember the past so we can have a future.

Pistol Pete you will always be in my memory.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:45 PM

Can't believe it four pages of handout motors? :blink:


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And one or two came after the "guest" statement. ;) :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 07:10 PM

Sorry Ron I misspelled a word. :laugh2: :laugh2: I misspelled more that 1000 words but I'm lucky because I don't see it. ;)


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BMW (Bob Marley and the Wailers)

United we stand and divided we fall, the Legends are complete.
I'm racing the best here at BP but Father time is much better then all of us united.
Not a snob in this hobby, after all it will be gone, if we keep on going like we do, and I have nothing to prove so I keep on posting because I have nothing to gain.
It's our duty to remember the past so we can have a future.

Pistol Pete you will always be in my memory.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 09:35 PM

I don't see the big deal, the handout motor program seems to be fine. It's not like the motors have giant differences in speed. In all the King track races, I buy 1 motor, except the Checkpoint where I bought 2, and every one has been competitive except for 1. Now I gear all mine tall, and look at it as a 1 race motor, with the only exception, where I got 2 races out of my Western States motor.

I think you could be in for a bigger problem in motors, if you go away from the handout program, with people buying 10-20 motors at a time, to find that 1 monster, trust me I've seen it done on more than 1 occassion. Just my 2 cents.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 09:57 PM

Jonathan face it, that's the only way they can catch ya? :laugh2: It's you and Duran and Mike Steube, Warmack and Dough Matthews when he is hot? :laugh2:
Sorry if I forgot someone? :blush: Craig been sneaking up. :shok:


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BMW (Bob Marley and the Wailers)

United we stand and divided we fall, the Legends are complete.
I'm racing the best here at BP but Father time is much better then all of us united.
Not a snob in this hobby, after all it will be gone, if we keep on going like we do, and I have nothing to prove so I keep on posting because I have nothing to gain.
It's our duty to remember the past so we can have a future.

Pistol Pete you will always be in my memory.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 10:01 PM

First off....

Let's get this out of the way right here and now :acute:

I was NOT at last years CHECKPOINTrace :scratch_one-s_head: as much as I wanted to be, I was chasing the "The Crash Codger" around the track in NORCAL/SCRA'S GT-12 pro classs. So this post by GUS is a out right LIE and is totally FALSE :sarcastic_hand:

Hey Guys! I didn't see any of these tense tendancies will visiting with ya'll at the Checkpoint. I had one little bit of tension aimed at the vitter, I wanted for my little Dave to be available to grab and protech him from this minor this minor flaring but it quickly passed. Afterwards I felt like I was at a family re-union with every-one helping the other. Gus


Infact.... Everytime I have been to BP I have never seen GUS there :unknw: Because he wasn't!

Let's also get this straight here GUS. I'm not your little Dave, You know where I race GUS show on up and I'll show you more tension then you can handle :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:

You best get your facts straight before you post them GUS, let alone bring my name into it!

I'm sorry to everyone for this post....But it had to be done :victory:
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 11:24 PM

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 11:43 PM

Little David way to funny, :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: you would think that if you know David that's a no no........... :laugh2:
Well Gus you most be BRAVE or you are looking for some........... :shok:
I guess I need to make some :popcorm1: :mosking:


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United we stand and divided we fall, the Legends are complete.
I'm racing the best here at BP but Father time is much better then all of us united.
Not a snob in this hobby, after all it will be gone, if we keep on going like we do, and I have nothing to prove so I keep on posting because I have nothing to gain.
It's our duty to remember the past so we can have a future.

Pistol Pete you will always be in my memory.





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