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[HarV Wallbanger III]

This,IMHO,was another poor sportmanship post in this thread.
It took you exactly one minute(4:09-4:10 my time)
after Matt Bruce was posted as the winner to point out Team Cort's
John Gorski wasn't there.

I'm not taking anything away from Matt or any of the records people broke at all. A record at any given track is a goal for all to go for. Just like the fastest gun in the west, there is always another faster just waiting for his time to step up to the top and have a target put on him. Now this gives John and all the rest of the East coast racers something to shoot for.

Matt's and all the records are goals for any that race at that track to shoot for. My post was put on when I got on the blog, not because I was waiting Mike. I talked to John and because his mother was in the hospital he could not make it and wished he was there to see if he was as fast as all the racers. I posted his frustration in not being able to race but family is more important and will always come first for many of us.

As far as the track power it was just a observation and it does not matter to me if one track is faster then another, but it does matter to the racers that race at that or any track what the current record on that track is to judge how far they are to the hot shoes at that track. When we get the track power sorted at BPR our records will fall on all our classes. What does that mean to people that do not race here..... not a dang thing because it never was about "our" records against "your" records it only gives us something to shoot for. And as far as big wires under the track, these little "toothbrush" motors could run the same times and laps with half the size!

You are just a guilty of "world record" mania as any of us that raced back in the USRA in the 80's-90's. I think you put into my statements what you wanted not what I really said.

I said CONGRATS to all the PLAOOZA racers and I meant it and was happy to send them race prizes!

[Rick]

Let me interject here. This is about the Palooza. Jeeze keep it on the topic.

The track record was awesome! Matt did not cut that lap in the first two, but about lap number 6 or 7!! But the race laps were, to me, even more incrediable. Although the track was set at 13.8, I checked the lanes during race laps on my neighbors controller and the race voltage was 12.9 to 13.1v. I saw many many race laps in the 4.60's, which is damn fast. Let's not forget IRRA cars have a 100 gram min weight limit too...

[tonyp]

Matt's times and everyone else who broke records were awesome for Sonny's track. Thats it. Every king track is different. Every track will have its own track records. Apples to apples oranges to oranges. I held the rerord there for 2 years until this race. The track was put in excellent shape, power good but clean and everyone upped their game. Sonny's is the fastest king track at Sonny's and no where else. Same with Mimi's, BPR, Longwood, Thomasville etc.

[MSwiss]

You are just a guilty of "world record" mania as any of us that raced back in the USRA in the 80's-90's. I think you put into my statements what you wanted not what I really said.

Don't confuse me setting the most world records with being a proponent of them.
I tried to discredit the bigger banked, large radius, punched tracks, when they started to appear,
but there weren't enough other racers willing to be "the bad guy" for it to gain any traction.
The only time I ever made a big effort chasing the World Record was when it involved being the
first racer under 2 seconds.

I'm sorry but a line like
"Wo,,, all the records! John said now he has to wait till Oct to beat them down some more!"
comes off like it's a given he would of went faster and further.

Something like "John wishes he was there" or even "Matt set somes great records John looks
forward to chasing after", IMHO, would of been more appropriate or better yet,
no reference to John at all.
You had already explained that John couldn't make it and the reasons why
in another thread. Let Matt have the spotlight for a post or two.

All I know from all my years racing, comparing lap times and totals from one track to another
has screwed up racing in the long run.
To go along with that, referring to who wasn't there(directly or subliminally) isn't good either.
It's an insult to the racers who made the effort to go.
Everyone was invited.

[Noose]

OK my 2 cents on the records at Sonny's. One contributing factor that might have helped is the fact that many parts of the track were re-braided prior to this race.

JD GP - The qualifying record was lower because of the use of Falcon 2s vs. TSRF motors.

JD Sports Cars - it's a new record for that track because we never ran them there.

GTC - same this as above. The prior GTC record that Tony held for a long time was with a ProSlot motor so this established the record under the current IRRA rules.

F1: The prior record was set just this past March. Same cars were used and nobody really came with anything different. The racing was just super clean and you will get more laps under those conditions. Here the total lap record was broken by 9 laps and the fast race lap was also broken.

Can-Am: Same thing. The record that was broken was set in March. Total laps got beat by 4 laps. Matt could have possibly made 1 more had he not had 2 very quick deslots.

Everyone came to this race prepared to race against some of the best racers there are. The track records we talk about out here are for the tracks we race on and until recently, many hadn't changed for a long time. The big difference? People are driving better, learning to set-up cars better and the use of wonder rubber has probably contributed.

Heck, I ran a 3 year old chassis in GTC!

[gascarnut]

Heck, I ran a 3 year old chassis in GTC!

To say nothing of a 3-year old, twice rebuilt F1 car...............

[JerseyJohn]

To say nothing of a 3-year old, twice rebuilt F1 car...............

Hay Dennis my copy of the Noose Sampson got me into 3 mains.Thanks. What else you got?

[Noose]

To say nothing of a 3-year old, twice rebuilt F1 car...............

Yeah that too one too! It is "the" one that started the Samson F1 craze out here.

[The Number of]

And there are no track records set without equally motivated turn marshalls. Everyone who marshalled the main were focused on thier corners,same as at the R4.The race was clean and fast and the few deslots were handled as quick and clean as the race.

[slotcarone]

Mike you need to get your iron plugged in more often.

Hi Tony--you are right but I raced my totally rebuilt JK F1 chassis now with plumber pan set up and it was the best it has ever run. I also came prepared with a new Warmack Can Am that was excellent at HVR but just was not working well on race day so I took Joe's offer of a loaner car at the last minute and as you can guess I out qualified Joe---sounds familiar doesn't it? We missed you there!!

[HarV Wallbanger III]

Yes Mike you are right, as I corrected what I meant to say was TRY to beat them down.

This is what I thought I wrote, till I re-read it. My meaning was NOW John has to bring his A game the next race. It's never a foregone conclusion in racing no matter how hard you try. I'm all for breaking track records as it brings up all that race there.

BTW I would also like to thank the great folks at Sonny's Fastlane because I got my shirt today in the mail!

[68Caddy]

Its funny that a little word can change things around and I use a lot of them. I still don't get the feeling of this whole post?


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