Drag rules
#1
Posted 07 March 2011 - 01:14 PM
One rule that was mentioned was; "You could clean your lane up to the tree witch is about the first 8 to 10 feet."
As Dennis Hill (Foamy) pointed out at most tracks wiping up glue is at racer option and only limited by how much time is allowed. A sixty second clock is normal for staging.
The order of running the classes is also open for debate as some run based on how many entries are in a class, others rely on how much glue the cars require and run the classes that require less glue to be run after the faster cars run and then clean the track for the slower cars or do it in the reverse order.
Another thing that was mentioned in the other post was an allowed practice run that was given to a racer running a different class before the final in an index class. In an index class you are trying to run to a preset ET. If your car is set up to run a .990 ET with current track conditions and another car runs on your lane adding or deleting glue it could cause problems. I've never heard of a track interrupting a normal race class to do this but this highlights the need for consistent rules.
On another board there has been a long running complaint about illegal armatures and how to catch them. The problem is the solution is often as bad as the problem by mandating testing that would require more expensive and sophisticated testing equipment that raceways don't want to buy or end up using inferior equipment that can't reliably measure to the required standard.
If we don't want to put up with a lot of local rules coming up with a national standard would help. Now if the factories could work together to come up with these ...
Mike Boemker
#2
Posted 07 March 2011 - 02:05 PM
I thought there was I'll see if I could find them.
It makes scene to run 1.090 index from start to finish and then the .990 index start to finish but to run the brackets after them does not make too much scene.
I think were I race they might do index one night and then bracket another night. There was some talk about it.
I have never had a problem with just cleaning the track up to the tree and I do know the track slows down as the night goes on due to glue build up on the lane and I account for that. That is untill last week.
There should never be a practice pass by someone when there is eliminations going on period.
Well take a look here but it is all from year 2000. > http://www.slotcar.c...rs Handbook.pdf
And here > http://www.slotcar.c...rs Handbook.pdf
SDRA > http://www.slotcar.com/sdra/index.html
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#3
Posted 07 March 2011 - 07:24 PM
Someone mentioned "Big Money" was the reason for the glue job. HA. There for a while @ BP, we were running for a couple hundred to win in Brackets. . .every week. 150+ cars at 3bux a car, 90% payback. Nothing like this EVER happened here.
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#4
Posted 08 March 2011 - 02:05 AM
Mike Boemker
#5
Posted 08 March 2011 - 06:18 AM
We are lucky to have owner's like we do, the real problem is the low life scum, that cheat and steel.
"Drive it like you're in it!!!"
"If everything feels under control... you are not going fast enough!"
Some people are like Slinkies... they're really good for nothing... but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
#6
Posted 09 March 2011 - 08:40 PM
#7
Posted 10 March 2011 - 09:17 AM
having national rules would be nice ecept that all raceways operate differant in their racing programs in order to keep the racers comming . you realy dont need rules in an index class because you go to fast you lose.most racers in my area feel that cleaning the track at the beginning of the night is enough after the track is cleaned completely the races run out a new glue layer them selfs and feel if you clean the track past the tree the cars lose grip. however you can do all the cleaning you want up to the tree so your car will hook up at the line. this was a thing voted on by the racers themselves. as i was the race director at the track mentioned in the last post i have allowed cars to make a test pass during a race while waiting for the drivers in the class to get to the line.even someone in the last post was allowed to do it at my old raceway i have been running my drag program since 1996 and have never ran into a problem like that one you read about .in fact i was asked by the racers if i would talk to the owners of the track i am at now to let me directt the drag program.you all read the last post and you have both sides of the story YOU MAKE UP YOUR OWN MINDS ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR PROGRAM FEEL FREE TO CALL THE TRACK
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Okay maybe at least some basic guide lines will do the trick.
Like under no circumstances there will be no other runs during rounds or eliminations.
Practice ether before or after the eliminations and NOT during.
As for the glue rule I have never had a problem the way it is now and I think if I noticed the glue before the race in my lane at half track and top end I would have at least movedit to the side with my little tool that I leave by the starting line for others to use if they like. I would have cleaned the glue just before the finish line. That is after it was cleared with a track official.
In this case you were not waiting for me . Do you remember telling me it is not your turn to run just yet when I was hooking up my controller ?
I never would ask to let me get in a practice pass during eliminations as I know better since I have been involved in 1 to 1 drag racing just about all of my life.
It has been a few years since you closed your doors and I had a great time racing at your establishment and I'm real glad you are running the drag program at S-A-L and thank you for doing it. I don't think it is a bad idea to listen to other input and to adapt and make little changes like "no practice runs during eliminations if need be.
I'm always open minded and listen to what others have too say and I think it is a good thing.
Tony; Rob and I talked and we agreed to drop the incident and get on with racing so lets leave it at that and not bring it up.
Please feel free to voice your opinion about the rules and guidelines.
Just incase you missed the last post Tony is talking about here is a link.
http://slotblog.net/...ed/page__st__20
"Drive it like you're in it!!!"
"If everything feels under control... you are not going fast enough!"
Some people are like Slinkies... they're really good for nothing... but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
#8
Posted 10 March 2011 - 12:37 PM
#9
Posted 18 March 2011 - 11:51 AM
Was someone's cars and box stolen there at Buena Park or a track located there on the West coast ? If my memory recalls the property belonged to someone who had passed away but his box remained under the drag track and some DIRT BAGS helped themselves to it and stole it.
We are lucky to have owner's like we do, the real problem is the low life scum, that cheat and steel.
Haven't been to this thread in a while.
The box in question was moved to the back store room, the stuff was returned to the family. It took a while to locate it, as he owner is the one that moved it, passed away, and it took a while to find it. The back room was kinda a mess. There was a big cry about how it was stolen, but when it was found, nothing further was said.
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#10
Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:41 AM
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#11
Posted 22 July 2011 - 05:06 AM
It is now over and done with end of story.
"Drive it like you're in it!!!"
"If everything feels under control... you are not going fast enough!"
Some people are like Slinkies... they're really good for nothing... but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
#12
Posted 28 July 2011 - 08:14 PM
#13
Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:51 PM
The most popular Drag racing at the tracks that I have raced at is ET.
Call your ET and if you cut a light better than the other driver, run very close to your ET and don't go under you will most likely win.
This eliminates all the hassles before the race.
How can you cheat?
This always pull in more new racer that any other type of Drag racing. If a new racer comes in and you hit them with a book full of rules they may not come back.
We are speed demons at hart, and as we learn more about the cars we will try building faster (and more expensive) cars. I have several cars from very simple costing $50 to high end cars that where over $200, but it is the most consistent one that wins the most. It is not always the fastest one.
Keep it simple.
#14
Posted 26 September 2011 - 01:46 AM
We have had some success with getting heads up classes for the new Neo magnet motors. Often a guy will build a car with some cobination and other people like it and it morphs into a new class, or revives an older class.
I think the thing that makes it special at BPR isn't the cars, it's the people. The bench racing and fellowship make the difference. While we compete with each other we also help each other.
Mike Boemker
#15
Posted 09 November 2012 - 06:52 AM
I have to agree, rules that are standardized make it easier for visiting racers to race at other tracks and control cheating to a degree.
I do understand that many tracks cannot afford exotic testing paraphenalia and that is where the DRS rules were handy.
there will always be someone who can find a way around rules.
I have watched guys advance timing on sealed S16-D motors for both drag and circuit racing. they got away with it too.
I ran some drag racing for awhile and tried to avoid cash payouts becasue it always seemed to attract some people who were ruthless. the racres that were content with store bucks (credit) were there to have fun. everyone wants to win, but running brackets that can be low dollar cars and having fun seemed to bring the fathful in regulary and the cheaters out.
sorry to dredge this up again and it seems in all classes of racing, national and even international rules seem to be created by a manufacturer and that always brings up the question of favoritism.
#16
Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:20 PM
I built my 1st dragster recently without wheelie bars. It has a Hawk 7 and ET's/ in the 1.2's/ 33 mph.
I'm waiting to have body painted. I know zero about any rules.
I heard somewhere that wheelie bars are required. IS THAT TRUE?
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#17
Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:24 PM
Take a look at the slip joint dragsters, they don't have wheelie wheels.
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#18
Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:28 PM
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#19
Posted 09 November 2012 - 02:29 PM
I raced Rod & Custom magazine rules in the 1960's and I raced the SDRA 1991 Nationals at JK Raceway. After I took over the JK operation in 2001, I had a nice 100 ft strip capable of hosting a better national event, but our local program did not go very well, mainly due to lack of traveling racers from other parts of the metro area.
One issue I have wanted in top fuel was to offer a truely open class race. ANY motor and chassis within a set of overall dimensions...just like in the 1960's. Non wheelie bar classes make a lot of sense to me. How about FCR Street Stock.??
Larry D. Kelley, MA
retired raceway owner... Raceworld/Ramcat Raceways
racing around Chicago-land
Diode/Omni repair specialist
USRA 2023 member # 2322
IRRA,/Sano/R4 veteran, Flat track racer/MFTS
Host 2006 Formula 2000 & ISRA/USA Nats
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#20
Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:25 PM
When I last communicated with Bob Herrick, within the last 2 years, he said DRS was still in operation, He is on Facebook; ask him yourself...
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#21
Posted 29 March 2016 - 11:02 AM
As far as I am knowing, the 2005 SDRA rulebook is the main guide yet. With the use of the Proslot style minimotors or even 1/32 scale, has any other rule book come in use? A quarter mile in 1/32 scale is basically a 1000' 1/24 track.
Larry D. Kelley, MA
retired raceway owner... Raceworld/Ramcat Raceways
racing around Chicago-land
Diode/Omni repair specialist
USRA 2023 member # 2322
IRRA,/Sano/R4 veteran, Flat track racer/MFTS
Host 2006 Formula 2000 & ISRA/USA Nats
Great Lakes Slot Car Club (1/32) member
65+ year pin Racing rail/slot cars in America
#22
Posted 07 April 2016 - 06:15 PM