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Track cleaning crisis

Started by Mark Wampler , May 17 2011 11:37 AM

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#26 Mark Wampler

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 04:04 PM

Nice state you guys live in... Good old Prop 65...

While there are these annoying regulations, taxes, corruption and huge unemployment, the track is open and still have the best weather.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 04:30 PM

Humm. let's see. If we gather ALL the cans of PURE, maybe we can do it!

Oh, maybe carburetor clearner?

No offense Darrell, we're pulling ideas out of the air now.

I would say you are pulling out of something, but it's not air. :laugh2:

Mineral Spirits is what it is, Go ahead and clean a track with that and report back how much fun you had.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 04:58 PM

Hey !!! I LIKE getting high when I clean our track !!! :rolleyes:

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 05:00 PM

Thats one of the best parts of slot car racing. lol....

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 05:53 PM

That it will do guys.... :laugh2:

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 07:11 PM

Good luck Mark, have to say all those cleaners makes me gag, :stinker:

cant take the fumes so I'm always late to the race way. :sorry:

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 07:31 PM

As also before mentioned Mike, there was some issue with the braid lifting when we used it. There are some unknowns as to why we don't use it. I posted this thread in hopes for alternatives to Naptha/ mineral spirits. A light spray glue is applied. I'm not around when that happens the following day after cleaning. Our thinners on the west coast are not oily and that's not an issue.

Mark, unless you are drenching the track in Naptha or Coleman fuel, the braid issue is not with the cleaning product but with poorly attached braid. Braid will typically let you know when it's time to rebraid....sounds like you guys are pretty close.

Naptha works great, Coleman does also but leaves a bit of slime behind, either way, open the doors, run a fan, do it quickly and there's really no issue.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:29 PM

Every time I had any braid problems after cleaning a track, it was because someone just soaked it too much. Every time.

Coleman Fuel of today is about the same as Napthat as it has chnaged over the last few years. It really isn't slimey like it used to be.

Check this out, they are very close now:

VM&P NAPTHA

Physical state and appearance: Liquid.
Odor: Petroleum odor (Slight.)
Taste: Not available.
Molecular Weight: Not available.
Color: Clear Colorless.
pH (1% soln/water): Not applicable.
Boiling Point: 86°C (186.8°F)
Melting Point: -73°C (-99.4°F)
Critical Temperature: Not available.
Specific Gravity: 0.75 (Water = 1)
Vapor Pressure: 1.4 kPa (@ 20°C)
Vapor Density: 3.8 (Air = 1)
Volatility: Not available.
Odor Threshold: Not available.
Water/Oil Dist. Coeff.: Not available.
Ionicity (in Water): Not available

COLEMAN FUEL
APPEARANCE
Clear, green liquid.
ODOR
Petroleum Naphtha<<<<<<< Note This!ODOR THRESHOLD
N.D.
BASIC PHYSICAL PROPERTIES
PHYSICAL STATE: Liquid
BOILING POINT: IBP >100°F (>38°C)
MELTING POINT: N/A
VAPOR PRESSURE: (Reid) 5.3 psi @ 100°F
VAPOR DENSITY (AIR=1): 3
SPECIFIC GRAVITY @ 60°F (water=1): 0.7
MOLECULAR WEIGHT: not available
SOLUBILITY (H2O): negligible
PERCENT VOLATILES: 100%
VISCOSITY: not

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 09:14 PM

Interesting facts if I was a chemist, but I'm a paying customer and I like to have the track cleaned when I arrive! :laugh2:

Not a track owner only a customer, if I had a commercial track I would pay attention to this.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 09:37 PM

I used Simple Green for several years to clean my tracks. It worked pretty good, even on heavy glue.

Before that, I used DaddyO's Track Cleaner. It had a very strong citrus smell, and made the raceway smell citrusy fresh! We couldn't get it for awhile, and as I recall, the new stuff didn't smell the same, or work as well. That's when we went to the Simple Green. The sassafras odor from the Simple Green is not as strong as the old Daddyo's cleaner, but still pleasant.

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#36 Mark Wampler

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 01:02 AM

Good luck Mark, have to say all those cleaners makes me gag, cant take the fumes so I'm always late to the race way.

Nesta

We're the regulars Nesta and so it falls upon us to do the cleaning. We don't have to pay for the supplies, only the elbow grease. Resporators are optional.

Citrus aroma would be nice. The only thing better would be Winter Green.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 01:25 AM

Nice state you guys live in... Good old Prop 65...

Tony--it's WAY beyond Prop 65. The state air boards want to outlaw everything--including people eventually (I'll bet..)

Buncha unelected unaccountable unqualified a--holes making rules that screw everything up without having to answer to the voters.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 06:07 AM

Tony--it's WAY beyond Prop 65. The state air boards want to outlaw everything--including people eventually (I'll bet..)

Buncha unelected unaccountable unqualified a--holes making rules that screw everything up without having to answer to the voters.

Keep them all in California please, Mike! :laugh2:

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#39 Mark Wampler

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 01:36 PM

Keep them all in California please, Mike!

You know how it goes. Whats starts here, goes around the world. Blame Hollywood.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 02:01 PM

Good luck Mark, have to say all those cleaners makes me gag, cant take the fumes so I'm always late to the race way.

Nesta

but a 1-1/2packs of CIGS.and prob 1/2 gallon of rot-gut wine a day dont ??,,,,whewwww, :blink:

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 02:06 PM

I usually clean my track with WD-40. It cuts the glue, does not lift the braid, and has (in my mind) a nice and non-toxic aroma. It is available by the gallon at a reasonable price. But you will need to apply spray glue when done.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 02:15 PM

I usually clean my track with WD-40. It cuts the glue, does not lift the braid, and has (in my mind) a nice and non-toxic aroma. It is available by the gallon at a reasonable price. But you will need to apply spray glue when done.

Ken Bryan

WD-40 ?? really? Doesn't that leave it slick? Im not doubting you, it's just the first i've heard of it.

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#43 Mark Wampler

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 06:33 PM

I usually clean my track with WD-40. It cuts the glue, does not lift the braid, and has (in my mind) a nice and non-toxic aroma. It is available by the gallon at a reasonable price. But you will need to apply spray glue when done.

Ken Bryan

WD-40? Interesting! I had the same concern that it does leave a film. Its not super flammable . Might be a little pricey for a commercial track. Worth a look into, thanks Bryan.

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