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#1 MSwiss

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 07:04 PM

I'll get a lot more pics up in the future.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 07:08 PM

Nice!
Tell Tom that whenever he gets tired of them, there is a museum on the Left Coast! :)

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:10 PM

Is this stuff of any value?

The piano wire on the chassis isn't even round.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:18 PM

Only in the eye of very few, but for these few, yes, it has historical value as Mike Staskie was a top-notch racer in 1968-1969.
And hopefully, that history will be preserved for future generations.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 09:04 PM

Just goofin' with you.

I know who Mike Staskie and Dave Bloom were.

I saw both of them race at Hinsdale.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 09:07 PM

Both were great guys...

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 10:06 PM

According to real estate records on the 'net, Staskie lived about 25-30 minutes from both my past and current raceway location.

He apparently sold his house a little bit before the Retro craze hit.

Despite some help from a local racer providing possible phone#'s, I could never locate him.

He was known as a source for used Pantera parts.

Another late 60's local racer, Don Goode had tracked him down in the mid 90's.
According to Don, at that time, Mike was tooling around in a Ferrari 308
he had rebuilt from a wreck, and despite some prodding, didn't seem to have
much interest in checking out slot racing.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:48 PM

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Earlier non-Bloom body painted and detailed by Tom.

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Used Bloom Elfin body

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Unused Dave Bloom Champion Lola T-163

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Top view of the T-163.

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Unused Bloom Marcos Mantis

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:56 PM

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Unused Dave Bloom stocker body.

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Staskie stocker chassis.

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Staskie square wire chassis w/infamous Team Nutley drop arm.

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John Nelson(?) chassis with square wire and Arcolite axle.

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Bottom view.

This car had been on my track unbeknownst to me, 2 or 3 years ago, hence the modern spur and rear tires.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 12:04 AM

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Bottom of Staskie stocker chassis w/ Cobra drop arm.

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Used Bloom body on stocker.

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B can w/ db(?) engraving on stack.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 12:32 AM

Link to Rick Thigpen post that shows Mike Staskie taking the 69 Hinsdale Manufacturers race over Bob Emott and Howie Ursaner

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 04:51 AM

I went to Tri-State Raceway at the Illinois border a couple times in 67-68 and remember hearing about Mike Staskie as the local top-gun... In fact, that F1 car looks a lot like what I remember the top guys running at the raceway, but they were mostly using 26D motors: just two lengths of piano wire, o-ring fronts, steamroller U-Go type rears and no drop arm... A little Thingie-ish for my taste, but very fast, especially in the eyes of a non-expert 15 year old kid! Any chance of seeing a closer shot of that F1 chassis Mike?

Don

PS: didn't Mike run for Team Certus for awhile?

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 06:39 AM

I have a few pics of the chassis, I haven't unloaded, back at the raceway.

Tom built it himself. It has a Champion 507 in it.

Mike was probably Certus's #1 driver for a few year's, certainly at least
#2 behind Lee Gilbert.

IMHO, he was the best racer from around Chicago in the "golden age".

Check out who he beat in that 69 MCJ article.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 08:19 AM

Mike,
Thanks for sharing.

Man, those Bloom bodies really are pieces of modern art, just beautiful.

I love those star thingies or whatever you call them where the lines and dots shoot out from the center :wub:.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 09:11 AM

I went to Tri-State Raceway at the Illinois border a couple times in 67-68 and remember hearing about Mike Staskie as the local top-gun... In fact, that F1 car looks a lot like what I remember the top guys running at the raceway, but they were mostly using 26D motors: just two lengths of piano wire, o-ring fronts, steamroller U-Go type rears and no drop arm... A little Thingie-ish for my taste, but very fast, especially in the eyes of a non-expert 15 year old kid! Any chance of seeing a closer shot of that F1 chassis Mike?

Don

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After checking out the huge weekly Friday night Hot Rod show in Downtown Downers Grove,
Sano Dave came by to get a Dairy Queen, a few doors down,
in my plaza, and must of smelled the Bloom paint and Staskie solder.

The moral of the story:
"You can't go wrong, goin' for ice cream". LOL

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 09:25 AM

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The stocker chassis.

Maybe PDL can chime in, but this is the first time I ever noticed
the chassis used as a ground on a car from "back in the day".

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 09:35 AM

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I love the square wire.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 09:41 AM

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Last one for awhile.

A close-up of the Bloom lettering.

Back to work.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 09:48 AM

Back to work.

I lied. LOL

Thanks to Rick Thigpen for the below.

Whenever I recount the story of Steube "tearing up" the track during qualifying,
I also mention Tom W. as the guy on the pole, until Steube cut him, despite
the come-off.

It never made 100% sense to me because Tom was a Semi-pro.

The MCJ article and Tom himself, cleared up my confusion last night.

Mike Staskie was the "current" pole sitter that Mike Steube cut.(too many Mike S's)

My confusion with Tom was due to him being the unnamed 2 minute Hinsdale Raceway
record holder that Steube would of cut if he didn't come off.

Tom had set the record in a weekly race.

He said last night;
"I still remember shaking the whole last minute when I set the record".

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 10:02 AM

Maybe PDL can chime in, but this is the first time I ever noticed
the chassis
used as a ground on a car from "back in the
day".



Mike, not sure what you mean. Do you mean one built with flat wire?

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 10:15 AM

Mike, not sure what you mean. Do you mean one built with flat wire?

Sorry for the confusion.

Not ground chassis rails.

One lead wire soldered/grounded to the chassis, in lieu of snaking it back to the
back brush hood tab.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 10:16 AM

Mike,

It took me a minute too, but I finally saw what you meant. In fact, grounding one of the wires to the chassis was pretty common back in the rail racing era (and on the first Scalextric tinplate slot cars), but I don't remember ever seeing something like that in more modern slot car - and especially not a pro type slot car!

Thanks for the photos of the F1 chassis, it's a lot more sophisticated than I had thought, and more so than the chassis I remember from Tri-State! Is that a front wheel suspension effect, or just an extra piano wire reinforcing arm?

Don

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 10:18 AM

Understood!

We used to do that but not very often as the chassis could short out when the tires wore out, and we began placing masking tape under the cars.

Interestingly, I built an experimental, ultra-light King-track retro car a couple of years ago using the chassis as negative lead to save weight, so the old saying that nothing is new comes true again! Posted Image

In any case my experimental car was a toad and would not turn. :laugh2:

So when are these nice cars going to join the LASCM collection? Posted Image

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 10:25 AM

So when are these nice cars going to join the LASCM collection? :)

I mentioned in another thread, Tom was a real good friend, and later
long time 1/8th gas racing partner of Dave Bloom.

He didn't seem interested in parting with them.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 10:33 AM

Thanks for the photos of the F1 chassis, it's a lot more sophisticated than I had thought, and more so than the chassis I remember from Tri-State! Is that a front wheel suspension effect, or just an extra piano wire reinforcing arm?

I didn't have time to study the cars that closely.

His brother was here with a group of guys that were anxious to get the racing started for the
cars below.

Sano Dave had more time to check them out.
He might have some insight.

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Posted 24 July 2011 - 10:46 AM

Don,
On the F1 front end. It is designed as suspension, although Tom does admit, he was never much of a builder. However he was quite a driver.
It was great talking with him, reliving some of my fonder memories of the sixties, racing slots here in the chicago area. Matter of fact, my best ever
big race back then, Tom and I went one two in the A consy, one two in the semi, and one two in the main. It was the 1969 Berwyn Invitational and I felt
honored to finish second to him in that race. I must also mention, how great it was sharing our memories of Dave Bloom. I have many, Tom has many more.
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Posted 24 July 2011 - 01:10 PM

Me too I was there. :)
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:37 PM

A small correction for the guys looking for historical accuracy.

Sano Dave had time to "interrogate" his marshaling partner,Tom W., pretty thoroughly between heats on Friday night.

After Sano pointed out the lack of engraving on the drop arm of the below pictured car,
and some slightly different build details, Tom conceded it might of been built by
Mike Staskie's Certus teammate, John Nelson (not to be confused with Charlie Nelson).

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 09:24 PM

That looks like it was made with the square wire Rehco used to sell.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 09:47 PM

It makes a cool looking chassis except for the mini-kinks at the bends.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:02 AM

It did kink and actually wasn't very flat. The good stuff was the stuff you took to a machine shop and had them grind the .063" wire on both sides so it was .047" thick. I used to do mine on just one side so the top was still round.

 

Flat wire another idea from Jerry Brady. Jerry built like crap but figured out low CoG real early on. He never used a full bracket on his inlines to keep things lower.


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Posted 12 August 2011 - 11:02 AM

I like those Dodge stock car body shells.

Who made them, and are they still availiable?


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Posted 12 August 2011 - 09:09 PM

Yeah, that square wire was terrible stuff, crooked, and twisted. I used flat wire made by Bob Green... smile.gif ... It was the most sano stuff on the left coast.


It did kink and actually wasn't very flat. The good stuff was the stuff you took to a machine shop and had them grind the .063" wire on both sides so it was .047" thick. I used to do mine on just one side so the top was still round.

 

Flat wire another idea from Jerry Brady. Jerry built like crap but figured out low CoG real early on. He never used a full bracket on his inlines to keep things lower.


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Posted 13 August 2011 - 06:21 AM

The REHCo stuff I believe was extruded. Real flat wire like the stuff Bob made was ground down .063" done on an electromagnetic surface grinder.


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Posted 14 August 2011 - 05:16 PM

Yeah, Bob didn't particularly like making flat wire and was pretty happy it didn't become "the thing" for chassis building.

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 10:55 PM

Right before our Wednesday night racing started, I was surprised by a visit from Tom Wisvader.

 

He looks great at 85 years old.

 

He hung around to watch both races, and we got to talk old times.

 

Along with Hinsdale slot car talk, I also got some insight on his 1/8 gas R/C days, racing for Marker Machine, and with Roy Moody and Dave Bloom.


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