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#1 Cap Henry

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 09:14 PM

Have a couple of chassis I acquired. I'm curious about the years they were made/used and what kind of motors, tires, bodies would have been used in their period.

First, a chassis sold at The Slot Shop, Chassis by Ziegman. Also says 5/8x7/8 on the tag?

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Second, a Jan Limpach Pacesetter.

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Last, A PDQ Racing Hunter Chassis. I imagine this one is fairly new due to the .062" front axle, but it has a drop arm...

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 09:47 PM

1) 5/8" fronts, 7/8" rears---Orange Limpach Fresh Cuts. BIG Faas gears--mid 40's or so.. Probably a lot of the original M.A.C. bodies, particularly the Porsche Roadster. If you look, the main frame components are from Limpach's 888 series. 'Ziggy' built 888's for Limpach for a while, built his own jig based on it and then started selling these 'knock-offs' using 888 parts. No, Limpach was NOT thrilled.

2) I should talk... I built a lot of Pacesetters, too (as did a number of people). I didn't do knockoffs tho--- Debuted at the Nats in Texas and won. Had those multi-piece front wheels that a pair probably weighed more than an current Open chassis. Jim Honeycutt's place down below San Antonio. What? '74?

3) This had to be something someone ordered and then didn't buy. Nothing Hubbell would have ever stocked without someone asking. Around various times, there were Yetis, Bartos', Limpachs, Parma, Ziegman and other builders in the general N.E. Ohio area to choose from. An independet could buy frame parts from Parma or Ron Lee or others.
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 09:59 PM

Thxs Mr. Bandes :)

Does anyone have a picture of the multi piece front wheels for the pacesetter?

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 12:15 AM

Rick Thigpen posted a few pics of the Pacesetter fronts over here: Link - The DC-65X Diaries - Tony P's Steel Cars
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 06:50 AM

The PDQ chassis.... could be anywhere from the early to mid 90's. Made in Brazil and sold by several companies here. PDQ was the "name" for the chassis King Distributing packaged back then.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 08:36 AM

Hard to believe that Zeigman chassis sold at that price ($8.75!) and anyone made any money. Good looking stuff.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 08:58 AM

Now I just gotta find the parts to make the first two sort of period correct lol

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 09:55 AM

Lucky you.

I have 2 pairs of Fresh Cuts still in the tube and... they're still fresh.

I also have a set of the Pacesetter front wheels laying bout.

AND!!! I'm 99.99% sure I have the MAC Lola body I ran (and ate it) on the Pacesetter in Texas. I know I have an unpainted one.

Plus, old C can motors with some period arms (some Camen 24s etc) and Faas gears (need some buffing---6 hours in a Tumbler??? You guys have waaaaay more patience than me!) Don't forget the elephant ear heat sinks from Parma or Trinity. And the pointless 'comm cooler'.

Heck, since I still have a Pacesetter, maybe I should build one back up.... 'cept I don't want to.

For the Ziegman, OS has a version of the MAC Porsche I think he calls a Nissan from the Retro class bodies They had 'semi-side dams' then. More like 'spill edges'. I still have a couple from back then. Mura or Champion can motor. Anyone can correct me on this but, I think those were the days of 25s, 24s, 27/27, 27/28. Somewhere I have an Alan Payne 23! (God, I'm old...) I have a custom built $12.00 '888' that Limpach engraved my name on the bottom.

I'm sure somewhere here someone must have 'rebuilt' a '888' for reference.
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 12:19 PM

I'm sure somewhere here someone must have 'rebuilt' a '888' for reference.


Here's a link to my 888 post:

The 888 and the '72 Nats

Hope it helps,

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 01:02 PM

Thanks Rick!

I have the body for the 888. I need a motor, rear gear, and front tires.

For the Pacesetter I need just about everything LOL

Though it sounds like Jim has almost all I need, if he wants to sell it LOL

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 01:39 PM

THE '888' ISO!

Forgot about that. I bet I have one of those in the basement. I know I built my own version of it.!



Here's a link to my 888 post:

The 888 and the '72 Nats

Hope it helps,

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 02:29 PM

AND!!! I'm 99.99% sure I have the MAC Lola body I ran (and ate it) on the Pacesetter in Texas. I know I have an unpainted one.

Plus, old C can motors with some period arms (some Camen 24s etc) and Faas gears (need some buffing---6 hours in a Tumbler??? You guys have waaaaay more patience than me!) Don't forget the elephant ear heat sinks from Parma or Trinity. And the pointless 'comm cooler'.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 02:42 PM

Hi Philippe,
Our friend Cap Henry is the person needing these parts to restore the cars, not Jim

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 02:47 PM

Just seeing the tag on the first chassis put a smile on my face. Last month, I was walking past the former building of The Slot Shop and saw that the windows were painted up to celebrate Mrs. Hubbell's birthday. Just about everyone I work with and easily about 75% of my customers (I work at the Advance Auto Parts in Elyria) has a Slot Shop story.

The place was a community institution and it's universally missed.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 04:25 PM

Our friend Cap Henry is the person needing these parts to restore the cars, not Jim

Cap is just as welcome. :)

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 08:39 PM

Thxs Philippe! I'll let you know after Jim checks what he has.

I didnt know the history of the Slot Shop til after it was closed, I only raced there a few times.

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Posted 28 June 2022 - 01:09 PM

Thanks for posting that pacesetter. I have (4) four to assemble and it's the first photo I've seen of a new one. Makes it soooooooo much simpler. Now,it I can get my *** in gear!
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Posted 28 June 2022 - 08:18 PM

You need plenty of heat to solder a Pacesetter. A torch might even be better than a soldering iron, That brass centersection is a huge heatsink. I assembled one with silver solder to run on a king track. Did your Paceseitter kits come with the special solderless Pacesetter fronts? Those were also sold separately.


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