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[bbr]

I ran a rear spoiler on my rp because my chassis was too stiff and lacked grip.
I ran ss wonder and didn't want to go any softer on the tires. I'm going to
re configure the pans and move the bite bar and see how that works

[Bryan Warmack]

                                                                   Parma Checkpoint Cup Can Am........... SIXTY FIVE entries!!

 

                                                                       

                                                                        

                        

                                                                      Where to put all the cars??

 

                                                                     

 

                 Oscar Morales shows off his super Parma Checkpoint poster. Thanks John, Jairus , Nesta and Flygirl for the design and artwork!!

 

                                                                  

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[Bryan Warmack]

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[Jim Lange]

Well if you check James Grimstead's times in his race--he was running a JIm Lange built clone of PDL'S chassis---he was consistently in the 3.3's during the race!!! The car was BALLISTIC--he had some issues!  

Although James had gear problems this car was bullet!  He was second fastest during the race to Jonathon check out the differance in quick lap time ...James had a 3.398554 to Jonathon's 3.398051. A big thank you to PDL for giving me the inspiration to build my version of a "Killer Retro Pro". I encourage others to do the same.

[Jim Lange]

This car was also VERY good. Too bad James had to leave early and miss his main.

[TSR]

I wonder of when we are going to see the first retro chassis made of 16 rails of 0.016" wire on each side...

[usadar]

                                                                            and more.............

The Can-Am chassis built by Tom Hansen seems to have a Chicagalond steel guide-tongue, which D3 banned to use.

Does SCRRA approve the use of a large steel guide-tongue as IRRA does with a dimensional limitation?

 

The following is what IRRA says:

 

3f. Pieces of steel used for guide tongues are

limited to a maximum 1” (25.4mm) total width

and 1.50” (38.1mm) total length. Steel tongues

cut from the flexi and wing car chassis are not

considered "commercial guide tongues" and are

no longer allowed. All legal steel tongues must

be purpose built as steel tongues and meet all

IRRATM measurement specifications.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Haruki

[Greg VanPeenen]

I wonder of when we are going to see the first retro chassis made of 16 rails of 0.016" wire on each side...

I already have a running 38 rail car 18 rails of .025 on each side and a center tuning fork made of 2 rails of .039. and a 20 rail f-1 both are very fast.

Regards,
GVP
Black Sheep racing

[Bryan Warmack]

The Can-Am chassis built by Tom Hansen seems to have a Chicagalond steel guide-tongue, which D3 banned to use.

Does SCRRA approve the use of a large steel guide-tongue as IRRA does with a dimensional limitation?

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The following is what IRRA says:

 

3f. Pieces of steel used for guide tongues are

limited to a maximum 1” (25.4mm) total width

and 1.50” (38.1mm) total length. Steel tongues

cut from the flexi and wing car chassis are not

considered "commercial guide tongues" and are

no longer allowed. All legal steel tongues must

be purpose built as steel tongues and meet all

IRRATM measurement specifications.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Haruki

 

      Haruki,

          The SCRRA allows the exact same Chicagoland pieces and has the same dimensions on the rules as the IRRA.

        Sorry you couldn't make it last weekend and hope you are feeling better!!

          The KamoSpeed cars did great at the Parma Checkpoint. I was TQ with a Kamo copy and Bob Crane was just .001 second back with your personal car. Duran won with a Kamo original and Mill Conroy was 2nd with a Kamo copy. Hope you can make it to the Summer Western Classic in July. The Pete Zimmerman "Festival of Speed" will be the weekend of April 20, 21 if you want to come sooner!!!

[Bryan Warmack]

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[redbackspyder]

Bryan, once again , brilliant race report and pictures....

 

To Buena Park and Greg Carter, I apologize, as you all have everything well in hand, and again, we appreciate Greg's switching back to the original timing system so that the Retro Pro race Friday night could run without a hitch.

 

Thanks to Nesta, who took countless photographs as well to report on the racing.....

 

Hope that everyone turns out next Saturday for the next scheduled Retro Race on the Buena Park King Track !

[Bryan Warmack]

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[usadar]

      Haruki,

          The SCRRA allows the exact same Chicagoland pieces and has the same dimensions on the rules as the IRRA.

        Sorry you couldn't make it last weekend and hope you are feeling better!!

          The KamoSpeed cars did great at the Parma Checkpoint. I was TQ with a Kamo copy and Bob Crane was just .001 second back with your personal car. Duran won with a Kamo original and Mill Conroy was 2nd with a Kamo copy. Hope you can make it to the Summer Western Classic in July. The Pete Zimmerman "Festival of Speed" will be the weekend of April 20, 21 if you want to come sooner!!!

Bryan,

Thanks a lot for the clarification of the guide tongue rules.

Mike Swiss will be happy to hear this.

Thanks for your great compliments to Kamo.

He will be very happy, because you are one of the great chassis builders that Kamo respects a lot.

I hope I will be able to race at the Zimmerman Festival of Speed.

Keep racing,

Haruki

[Bryan Warmack]

                                                                       

                                                                         

                                                                       

                                                                       

                                                                                                                                                                   Last but not least, Tore Anderson.........Car 65, where are you?? Tore was late as usual and didn't even get a practice lap.........didn't need it!!

 

                                                                     

   Presentation Concours........There were so many great looking cars that we decided to pick a winner and show the rest............

   1st Place Philippe deLespinay    Noose paint................and 2nd place by 4 cars,    #1 Jay Kisling   Noose paint,    #4  Dennis Samson  Mrs. Dennis Samson paint,  #24  Bob Crane  Noose paint and  #51 Earl McCutcheon  McCutcheon paint

 

                                                                    

                            PDL's 1st place super looking Noose painted TI22

                              

                                                                   

   Realistic Concours..........Same judging.......1st and 4 cars in 2nd.    1st Place  #5 Earl McCutcheon  McCutchen Paint,  2nd place.......#4.Dennis Samson  Samson paint,  #1 Dennis Rios  McCutchen paint,  #51 Hector Gonzalez  Gonzalez paint,  #3 Jimmy Bling  Samson paint

 

                                                                   

                                                          Earl McCutcheons Ferrari with wheel inserts and the detail is amazing!

                                    

[Russell Sheldon]

Great report and great pictures.  But the way the chassis are evolving, why not just race laser or EDM cut wing car chassis with Pro Slot Euro / JK Hawk / Falcon motors in Retro Pro?

 

Kind regards,

 

Russell

[gascarnut]

Great report and great pictures.  But the way the chassis are evolving, why not just race laser or EDM cut wing car chassis with Pro Slot Euro / JK Hawk / Falcon motors in Retro Pro?
 
Kind regards,
 
Russell

Russell,

Like all Retro classes, Retro Pro is first and foremost a builders' class. Using laser or EDM parts is prohibited in the rules.

Secondly, I doubt that the bodies we use could generate the downforce needed for a wing car frame to work.

[Bryan Warmack]

   OK............after all the car pics we finally get to some action!!   Can Am Qualifying,  65 cars. The last racer Chris Green didn't get a qualifying time and wasn't listed and started in the I Main.

 

                                                                           

                                                                           

                                                                           

 

            As usual very close qualifying with Bryan Warmack JUST edging out Bob Crane and Mike Isles.

                 Bryan was running a Warmack/ KamoSpeed copy and Bob Crane was running Haruki Kans personal KamoSpeed car while Mike Isles had a Greg Van Peenen chassis. No real surprises here but a lot of great racers had their work cut out for them to get to the A Main!!

 

                                                              

[Bryan Warmack]

                                                                

                                                             I Main racers

 

                                                               

                                                              I Main Results

 

                                                               

                                                     I Main Podium    1st Jeff Bell       2nd Mike Low      3rd   John Hegedus

 

 

                                                               

                                                             H Main results

 

                                                               

                                                        H Main Podium    1st  Mike Brannian       2nd  Rick Jochem        3rd  Craig Correia

 

 

                                                                 

                                                           G Main racers

 

                                                                  

                                                             G Main Results

 

                                                                 

                                                           G Main Podium    1st  Tim Neja       2nd  Jim Lange        3rd  Wes Pikunis

                                                   

[Bryan Warmack]

                                                                       

                                                                           F Main Racers

 

                                                                      

                                                                            F Main Results

                    

                                                                      

                                                                   F Main    1st Dennis Rios      2nd Dennis Samson      3rd   Al Thurman

 

 

                                                                      

                                                                          E Main Racers

 

                                                                       

                                                                          E Main Results

 

                                                                       

                                                                        E Main   1st Jerry Johnson       2nd Jay Henry          3rd  TJ Albu

 

 

                                                                       

                                                                           D Main Racers

 

                                                                     

                                                                      D Main results

 

                                                                      

                                                                       D Main    1st Gil Rivera      2nd  Mike Kravitz       3rd  John Wakamatsu

                                                       

 

 

 

[Bryan Warmack]

                                                                         

                                                                          C Main Racers

 

                                                                         

                                                                          C Main results

 

                                                                         

                                      C Main     1st Tore Anderson      2nd  Jay Kisling       3rd  Alex Freund........Tore and Jay move to the B

 

 

                                                                         

           B Main racers.......John Cukras, Duran Trujillo, Jay Kisling, Gary Donahoe, Philippe deLespinay, Tore Anderson, Terry Schmid, Doug Matthes

 

                                                                          

                                                                           B Main Results

 

                                                                          

                                     B Main     1st Duran Trujillo       2nd  Tore Anderson       3rd     Terry Schmid......Duran and Tore move to the A

 

 

                                                                            

        A Main Racers        Duran, Mike Isles, Tore, John Gorski, Jason Holmes, Mill Conroy, Bob Crane, Bryan Warmack

 

                                                                            

                    A Main Results      Duran just kind of comfortably motored away and left a battle for 2nd between Mill Conroy and Mike Isles with Mill prevailing. John Gorski 4th and great run Tore to come from the C to be in the hunt!!

                   Fastest qualifiers Bryan Warmack and Bob Crane both ran into problems but Bob Crane pulled out Fastest Lap!

                Congrats Duran and Mill and great run Mike Isles!!

 

                                                                           

                                   Can Am A Main     1st Place  Duran Trujillo      2nd Place  Mill Conroy      3rd Place  Mike Isles

[Bryan Warmack]

                                                                A Main Podium Cars

 

                                                            

                                                            

                                                   1st Place   Duran Trujillo     KamoSpeed chassis

 

 

                                                            

                                                            

                                             2nd Place  Mill Conroy     Warmack/ KamoSpeed chassis

 

 

                                                           

                                                           

                                                  3rd    Mike Isles    Greg Van Peenan chassis

 

 

             9  (NINE!) great Can Am races!!......Congrats to the winners and thanks to everyone!!................F1    tomorrow!!!!

[Dave Fiedler]

Great race! C main looked like an A main. B main looked like an A main.

A main - Wow!

Loved seein Terry and John the jet finishing together (just like the old days).

Fantastic job by all who raced.

[Russell Sheldon]

Russell,

Like all Retro classes, Retro Pro is first and foremost a builders' class. Using laser or EDM parts is prohibited in the rules.

Secondly, I doubt that the bodies we use could generate the downforce needed for a wing car frame to work.

 

Hi Dennis,

 

ret·ro:

adjective, Informal.

1. retroactive: retro pay.

2. of or designating the style of an earlier time: retro clothes.

 

The point that I'm trying to make is that the chassis can hardly be described as being 'retro' in design (i.e.in the style of an earlier time), particularly those used in Retro Pro.

 

Kind regards,

Russell