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The Dokktor is IN
Posted 07 June 2013 - 02:49 PM
OK, I am stumped. This is a 1/24 scale chassis I have never seen before??? 
The sleuths here will know in 16 seconds or less I am sure. Please tell me and explain the weird features?
Looks like it has metric 3 mm axle bearings at the back, and is missing its motor bracket.
Possibly:
1) German
2) Italian
3) Japanese
4) Martian or Mongoan
Philippe de Lespinay
Race Leader
Posted 07 June 2013 - 05:01 PM
this is a first!
im guessing japanese, independent front axle with suspension weird. where does the bowed center strip of metal that touches the front axle go to?
and it looks like adjustable wheel base and it looks like you can adjust the stiffness of the susp separatly
but i really dont know anything 
Grand Champion Poster
Posted 07 June 2013 - 05:22 PM
If YOU don't recognize it, Dokk, then I wonder if a true "craftsman" could have made it for himself(?).
The Dokktor is IN
Posted 07 June 2013 - 05:28 PM
Richard,
This is a very-well made, production part with stamped aluminum and steel part, not an amateur's hack job...
A total mystery as we have never seen another! It is in the 1/24 scale and likely would have been made for a FT16D motor, if one considers the rear-axle height in relation to the motor's drive.
Philippe de Lespinay
Posting Leader
Posted 07 June 2013 - 05:30 PM
Unique looking chassis ! Is that a Cox front axle with acorn nuts?
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 05:48 PM
The insulated screws are interesting. Makes me wonder if they were planning on a wireless transfer of power from the guide to motor.
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 05:50 PM
"bowed center strip of metal that touches the front axle go to?"
Looks to me to be for loading pressure on the guide....?
Good luck..... has to be a fer'in chassis for sure....
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 05:51 PM
Good point, Jairus!
P, does the curved spring touch the axle? Does the end of that piece slot into the brass L-shape that seemingly would push down on the guide shaft? And what material is the main chassis made of?
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Grand Champion Poster
Posted 07 June 2013 - 06:55 PM
TSR, on 07 Jun 2013 - 10:28 PM, said:
Richard,
This is a very-well made, production part with stamped aluminum and steel part, not an amateur's hack job...
Hence, my wondering if it's the work of a "true craftsman".
HarV Wallbanger III, on 07 Jun 2013 - 10:50 PM, said:
"bowed center strip of metal that touches the front axle go to?"
Looks to me to be for loading pressure on the guide....?
Yes, it DOES look like that. Both pieces of bowed metal (spring steel?) seem to be for the use of custom-setting the pressure for a floating front axle and guide flag.
Again... perhaps a "true craftsman" at work/play (?).
Grand Champion Poster
Posted 07 June 2013 - 07:43 PM
--- #4 Martian 
Dokk, disassemble it and layout the bits... so we can get a better look.
Does it pivot at the rivets?
The WB is adjustable... no?
The center alum upright on the rear chassis section looks bent toward the rear. Is it?
The 'W' shaped spring maintains the ride height.
The single spring steel in the center controls the 'bite' and possible 'changes' the ride hight/spring rate at the same time. If it touches the brass guide post spring then the guide post may have had a 'coil' spring floating action.
Looks like a... post FT16D era chassis to me. If EBD only to mount to the missing motor bracket. Without the bracket???
Those are all guesses " I know nothing", Mr. Prez. 
Jairus, on 07 Jun 2013 - 10:48 PM, said:
The insulated screws are interesting. Makes me wonder if they were planning on a wireless transfer of power from the guide to motor.
Good point!
Posting Leader
Posted 07 June 2013 - 08:12 PM
I set up a JK spring steel F1 front end very similiar to that only using piano wire for the springs. It did not make a winning car!
Not much help but the front axle looks like a Revell. A prototype?
Posting Leader
Posted 07 June 2013 - 08:23 PM
Probably no help but the moment I saw it the "outrigger" style body mounts and the black finish it reminded me of a Unique brand stocker chassis ( which I know it's not ). Just throwin' it out there. Also, for some reason the axle area up front reminded me of a 1/24 Strombecker.
Joe Lupo
Race Leader
Posted 07 June 2013 - 11:57 PM
If it touches the brass guide post spring then the guide post may have had a 'coil' spring floating action.
thats what i thought of the center spring. kind of a sping drop arm.
On The Lead Lap
Posted 08 June 2013 - 02:34 AM
Could be some manufacturer's prototype.
Where did it turn up?
John Robeson
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Posted 08 June 2013 - 12:06 PM
Prototypes are not made in production tooling, prototypes are hand built, not the case here. This is a production item, there is nothing hand-made on it. It was likely manufactured at the end of the 1960s, maybe as late as 1969-1970. The two holes at the base of the chassis were there to hold a motor bracket with two tapered, slotted machine screws similar to those on Dynamic chassis, but they are metric, which means this is NOT American or English.
Behind the brass piece on top are weird electrical connectors, more pictures will be taken ASAP.
Obviously this is quite a mystery and hopefully someone from the Old Continent or Japan will recognize it...
Philippe de Lespinay
Checkered Flag in Hand
Posted 08 June 2013 - 12:32 PM
Any numbers or markings on it?
The Dokktor is IN
Posted 08 June 2013 - 01:52 PM
No...
Philippe de Lespinay
Grand Champion Poster
Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:05 PM
Since no one can verify its provenance... I MADE IT!! And you can't prove otherwise. 
The Dokktor is IN
Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:22 PM
"Yes We Can" (of beer).
Philippe de Lespinay
Race Leader
Posted 08 June 2013 - 05:38 PM
TSR, on 08 Jun 2013 - 5:06 PM, said:
Prototypes are not made in production tooling, prototypes are hand built, not the case here. This is a production item, there is nothing hand-made on it. It was likely manufactured at the end of the 1960s, maybe as late as 1969-1970. The two holes at the base of the chassis were there to hold a motor bracket with two tapered, slotted machine screws similar to those on Dynamic chassis, but they are metric, which means this is NOT American or English.
Behind the brass piece on top are weird electrical connectors, more pictures will be taken ASAP.
Obviously this is quite a mystery and hopefully someone from the Old Continent or Japan will recognize it...
You think its that late? Looks pretty narrow to be from that period. I was thinking it looked more mid-'60s?
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Posted 08 June 2013 - 06:04 PM
Could be. I am more thinking a bit later because of the general design.
Philippe de Lespinay
Posting Leader
Posted 08 June 2013 - 06:24 PM
The shape of the nose piece almost looks like ones off the Italian Mini Dream chassis, the anodized red one you've posted pictures of before, Dokk.
Grand Champion Poster
Posted 08 June 2013 - 06:38 PM
Tex, on 08 Jun 2013 - 8:05 PM, said:
Since no one can verify it's provenance........ I MADE IT!! And you can't prove otherwise.
Well, it is gun metal gray.
Grand Champion Poster
Posted 08 June 2013 - 06:44 PM
Play nice; this ain't Freeblog. Only "slot car" spoken here.
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Posted 08 June 2013 - 07:39 PM
OK, From now on, "gun metal gray" will be called "XXX Metal Gray" and will be treated as a Swiss color, "neutral".
Philippe de Lespinay
