Classic Stinger
#1
Posted 18 June 2013 - 12:28 PM
The chassis is near mint, containing only a few sight scratches and incorrect spinner nuts. It also has the less seen 26D motor carrier.
Most of you are now yelling at the screen saying that Classic NEVER made a blue Stinger. Well... that is what the customer wanted so that is what he got.
The decals are something I created at the sign shop where I work part time. They are die-cut and I modified the "shield" logo to match the blue body. The #16 and slightly wider stripe are concessions of mine to replicate more closely the box art seen below.
As for TrueScale's body... it took a touch of modification to make it fit correctly. I have talked to Victor a few times and he is mounting one of his own bodies to confirm, but it may lead to a slightly modified mold in order to make this a simple cut and drop-on mounting.
But then these cars never went together that well from the factory. I should know... I owned one and that body didn't fit either!
Since the car came to me without the wing... I had no recourse but to make a counter weight from chassis lead and stick it to the wing. Double-sided super sticky tape was used instead of unsightly rivets.... which I have thus far been unable to replicate anyway.
I think it looks pretty BOSS!
And the wing works smoothy.
So... if you are wanting a replacement body for that cracked and aging Stinger on your shelf with its blackened front fenders... try TrueScale!
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#2
Posted 18 June 2013 - 12:51 PM
Bob Israelite
#3
Posted 18 June 2013 - 01:00 PM
A "Classic" - from you as always. Like the blue decal.
#4
Posted 18 June 2013 - 03:58 PM
That blue looks superb, Jairus. Really shows off the lines of the car and makes for a better overall look than the original color, IMO. Excellent job.
That car would look good in a metallic black or grey also.
John Robeson
#5
Posted 18 June 2013 - 04:06 PM
Painted and installed a new TrueScale body
So... if you are wanting a replacement body for that cracked and aging Stinger on your shelf with its blackened front fenders... try TrueScale!
I don't see it listed in the link you provided.
Bob Israelite
#6
Posted 18 June 2013 - 04:09 PM
I had a bit of trouble fitting it to the chassis, so he said he'll try to cut and fit one himself to see where mods might be required on the master if need be.
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#7
Posted 18 June 2013 - 05:02 PM
Victor pulled it I guess.
No pun intended?
I had a bit of trouble fitting it to the chassis,
Don't feel bad ... Classic did too.
so he said he'll try to cut and fit one himself to see where mods might be required on the master if need be.
OK ... I'll wait for that to happen.
Bob Israelite
#8
Posted 18 June 2013 - 06:15 PM
Most of you are now yelling at the screen saying that Classic NEVER made a blue Stinger. Well...
I reckon they should have.
That looks magic.
Steve King
#9
Posted 19 June 2013 - 08:40 AM
Always loved the look of the Stinger! Ever since seeing the advert in an old slot magazine was thingie love at first sight LOL.
Great job on the mounting and painting of the body! Looks awesome.
#10
Posted 19 June 2013 - 10:26 AM
Hi Jairus,
I bet that's one of the best looking Stingers on the planet!
Rick Thigpen
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#11
Posted 19 June 2013 - 10:45 AM
Wait until you see the one I did for Edo...
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#12
Posted 19 June 2013 - 10:55 AM
I can't wait
Jairus, please be on the lookout for a PM soon.
Thanks!
Rick
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#13
Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:15 AM
Classic never offered a built blue Stinger inside the RTR box, but anyone could buy the factory-trimmed, ready to mount BODY KIT in blue, then buy the wing (sold separately on a card), and assemble them to a chassis that had a damaged orange body to be discarded.
It's a bit like the Cox Cheetah IFC with any other body color than red, those were assembled from effectively, spare parts.
The Classic Stinger or any other Classic body kits never had the stripes, numbers or shields. Also, the body kits were only produced either unpainted (like the Manta Ray body) or painted in only three metallic colors: blue, green or dark red. The Stinger II (with no separate wing) was also sold in clear or painted form. So there are light metallic blue, red and green Stinger body kits, with matching wings.
Almost all Stingers genuine RTR models were painted in metallic tangerine and all those had the FT36D (CM360) motor. From early 1967, an extra motor bracket for the FT26D (can-side drive) motor was added in each box, as well as a sticker on the display tray to make customers aware that the loose bit under the tray was just that.
Below are a Stinger II body in blue and a Stinger body in green. Both sans stickers, meaning that they are genuine body kits and not from RTR models. All these body kits had slits die-punched on their sides for mounting around the protrusions on the chassis sides:
There were a few GREEN Stingers RTR fitted with FT26D motors assembled and sold in the last days of the company (with stripes and shields), but we have never run across a genuine blue or red example so far, meaning wearing the genuine stripes and shields. Until one shows up that is undeniably genuine, I guess we have to conclude that there were none produced.
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Philippe de Lespinay
#14
Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:06 PM
I'm glad we have a Stinger thread.
I have an original Orange to post and refer to. I'll have to take some pictures. The origin ... eBait .. it is in the wooden box shown below.
just sharing:
This is a Pattos repop StingerII That I painted for a 'customer'.
And some Yellow mess arounds.
Cut out wing
On a Flexi
Bob Israelite
#15
Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:57 PM
Never raced yet alone held a Stinger before , does the rear wing/spoiler actually work that good?
Will keep an eye out for the TrueScale one to reappear , really like the shape & would look good on a scratch Thingie chassis
#16
Posted 19 June 2013 - 04:52 PM
The wing does indeed pop up and down depending on motor torque. Power on and the wing retracts. Breaking and the wing pops up.
Whether it actually has any effect on handling is purely conjecture.
But driving mine (which I sold a few years ago) the wing got a bit on my nerves popping up and down so often. If I had one to play with again I'd install some sort of dampener on the works so it'll slow the action down and not seem so frantic.
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#17
Posted 19 June 2013 - 08:58 PM
The original Stinger are orange with the CM360 motor. Here are some old pics I had in file, I need to take better ones.
First, here is the box next to the original artwork by Bob Cadaret:
The car with the correct parts, stripes, numbers, shields and color of course:
The tires color match the body color. For example, the rare green Stingers had green tires.
Here is the only pic of the rare Stinger II RTR, produced in the company's last gasp in early 1968:
See Ma', no wing!
Philippe de Lespinay
#18
Posted 19 June 2013 - 10:01 PM
Wish I had the blue one! I ALWAYS loved those cars.
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#20
Posted 28 June 2013 - 06:25 AM
The wing does indeed pop up and down depending on motor torque. Power on and the wing retracts. Breaking and the wing pops up.
Whether it actually has any effect on handling is purely conjecture.
But driving mine (which I sold a few years ago) the wing got a bit on my nerves popping up and down so often. If I had one to play with again I'd install some sort of dampener on the works so it'll slow the action down and not seem so frantic.
I thought the wing on the Stinger worked by the pendulum effect of the weighted wing. The Cox 2E wing works by motor torque, but I thought the Stinger, and the spoiler on Monogram's Chap 2D both worked by the weighted pendulum.
#21
Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:33 AM
Todd, the Monogram's spoiler on their 2D (kind of) works by pendulum effect, but the Cox 2E and the Stinger wings are actuated by motor's torque.
The Stinger's actuating mechanism uses a wire. The wing saw an added weight after testing the system because it was to light to fully retract.
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Philippe de Lespinay
#22
Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:54 AM
Todd, the Monogram's spoiler on their 2D (kind of) works by pendulum effect, but the Cox 2E and the Stinger wings are actuated by motor's torque.
The Stinger's actuating mechanism uses a wire. The wing saw an added weight after testing the system because it was to light to fully retract.
Makes sense, thanks Dok!
#23
Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:01 PM
I believe that there may have been a production Stinger with the CM-450 installed.
Bob Israelite
#24
Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:46 PM
Actually, a few were assembled by the works at the very end of the company in early 1968. The only ones that we can qualify of genuine that we have seen (withing the hundreds we have seen over the years) have green bodies. BUT, since both brackets came in the box since the second quarter of 1967, anyone could switch to a CM450, CM460 or CM470, since all they had to do is to acquire a Classic pinion right off the shelf of their retailer. Almost all the Stingers with a FT26 motor I have seen did not have the "right" pinion, meaning that the customer put the motor in the car and not the works.
Philippe de Lespinay
#25
Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:13 PM
Jarius and Dok,
Here are 2 red Stingers from my collection. Both are factory painted and found this way. I have
had the clear Roadster body in the kit . but I found this Red car built and it matches the Red
paint from the standard Stinger. I will let you be the judge to see if these were production models.
Both bodies are both yellowed and look to be from the same era. Were these bodies sold
seperately??
Best Regards,
Don