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Builder
Posted 29 January 2015 - 04:35 PM
Finished February 2015:
Here's how it all started:
This (unfinished) Retro chassis was built by Greg Wells long ago.
Notice the wide motor bracket, front axle uprights, lots of empty space in the middle, and the rail setup - way ahead of its time.
I'm going to shine it up and assemble it into a new IRRA® legal car.
Paul Wolcott
Posting Leader
Posted 29 January 2015 - 05:20 PM
Dennis David
Age scrubs away speed!
Posted 29 January 2015 - 05:28 PM
We're caught up now, he can finish it. 
Pablo, I hope this ends up being a killer chassis. Have fun with it. 
The next chassis you get from Greg might be a Model A. 
Headmaster of the asylum
Posted 29 January 2015 - 05:36 PM
Maybe... LOL!
Gregory Wells
Never forget that first place goes to the racer with the MOST laps, not the racer with the FASTEST lap
Grand Champion Poster
Posted 29 January 2015 - 07:22 PM
There is some good stuff going on in that design.
Bet it runs good once finished.
Mike Swiss
Inventor of the Low CG guide flag 4/20/18
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990), eight G7 main appearances
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder
17B West Ogden Ave., Westmont, IL 60559, (708) 203-8003, mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address)
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Builder
Posted 29 January 2015 - 10:00 PM
Thanks for the votes of confidence, guys.
Lee Gilbert said pans are only a place to mount weights.
Matt Bruce said chassis only fill in the spaces between the tongue, body mounts, and motor bracket.
I say, "Damn the torpedoes, where did I put those doggone spare Hakko tips?"
Paul Wolcott
Builder
Posted 30 January 2015 - 12:21 AM
Motor removed, chassis into the tumbler.
Paul Wolcott
Builder
Posted 30 January 2015 - 12:34 AM
Now I understand why they call Greg Wells "cheater" - Noose would catch this for sure.
Paul Wolcott
Checkered Flag in Hand
Posted 30 January 2015 - 01:13 AM
Unless that is a stock car chassis. 3.125" is correct for a Can-Am chassis.
Headmaster of the asylum
Posted 30 January 2015 - 03:54 AM
What's a mere five tenths between friends?
Don't you own a file, Pablo? LOL...
Gregory Wells
Never forget that first place goes to the racer with the MOST laps, not the racer with the FASTEST lap
Grand Champion Poster
Posted 30 January 2015 - 07:49 AM
The stock, right-out-o-the-bag JK Retro chassis were a little over also.
Builder
Posted 30 January 2015 - 10:05 AM
Paul Wolcott
Headmaster of the asylum
Posted 30 January 2015 - 10:06 AM
Gregory Wells
Never forget that first place goes to the racer with the MOST laps, not the racer with the FASTEST lap
Mid-Pack Racer
Posted 30 January 2015 - 01:37 PM
Builder
Posted 30 January 2015 - 03:27 PM
I humbly bow to the machinists and acknowledge my measurement errors. 
Just trying to poke fun at Greg Wells any way I can. 
I put the mike to the pans - post tumble it's a perfect 3.125", so there.
Seriously, when it came out of the tumbler, I saw design features that absolutely floored me.
Hi, Dave. 
You are correct, this is a "torsion" style chassis - the nosepiece and the pans are one single piece. Theory is, less movement in front, more movement in rear. Front tilt/lift is governed only by the inherent flex in the brass sheet, and rear is governed by wire into square pieces of tube.
Paul Wolcott
Posting Leader
Posted 30 January 2015 - 05:18 PM
By the time you get through with it I think Greg will have built a FINE chassis.
Posting Leader
Posted 31 January 2015 - 01:29 AM
Pablo, I have built many of the original JK pan chassis similar to this without cutting the pans off and they all handle beautifully.
Mike Katz
Scratchbuilts forever!!
Builder
Posted 31 January 2015 - 01:55 PM
My main concern is, "Lord, please don't let me screw this thing up". 
Paul Wolcott
Mid-Pack Racer
Posted 31 January 2015 - 05:00 PM
Front tilt/lift is governed only by the inherent flex in the brass sheet, and rear is governed by wire into square pieces of tube.
So no "bite bar" is needed, and the effective position of the non-existent bite bar is about as far to the rear as possible? Am I thinking correctly?
Grand Champion Poster
Posted 31 January 2015 - 08:34 PM
My main concern is, "Lord, please don't let me... ".
Builder
Posted 31 January 2015 - 09:29 PM
So no "bite bar" is needed, and the effective position of the non-existent bite bar is about as far to the rear as possible?"
Dave, you are correct - no bite bar needed on a torsion style chassis. As far as theory goes, you'd be better off asking Swiss or Wells.
All I know is, they work. Swiss advertised his tutorial chassis as a flat track piece, but they work on King tracks just fine.
Paul Wolcott
SRT Motorsports
Posted 01 February 2015 - 12:06 PM
Swiss advertised his tutorial chassis as a flat track piece, but they work on King tracks just fine.
"... a good and wholesome thing is a little harmless fun in this world; it tones a body up and keeps him human and prevents him from souring." - Mark Twain
Headmaster of the asylum
Posted 01 February 2015 - 12:23 PM
Gregory Wells
Never forget that first place goes to the racer with the MOST laps, not the racer with the FASTEST lap
Headmaster of the asylum
Posted 01 February 2015 - 02:04 PM
Gregory Wells
Never forget that first place goes to the racer with the MOST laps, not the racer with the FASTEST lap
Builder
Posted 01 February 2015 - 05:58 PM
Paul Wolcott
