Bob:
That sounds great, can't wait!
Thanks!
Info wanted - Arco race at Stan's Hobby Shop in Tampa
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Posted 25 March 2015 - 09:32 PM
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Posted 25 March 2015 - 09:35 PM
That NCC race was the first race that I had seen gluing on the inside. As far as I can remember, the Camen guys introduced it at the race. Joel set the world record at the time there.
I flew down from Atlanta to the race; called Stan to see if he could come get me at the airport. He came to pick me up - along with Joel. Wow, what a moment in my racing life!
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Posted 26 March 2015 - 08:12 AM
OK, I found it. May 1969 issue, pages 62-63, and not listed in the issue's table of contents.
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Posted 26 March 2015 - 08:35 AM
Interesting quote in this article.
"All, but one lone inline entry, were Anglewinders..."
This was back when Retro was retro, but the change was already taking place.
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Posted 26 March 2015 - 03:19 PM
Thanks for posting the article, Greg. I thought my memory banks were failing me. 
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Posted 26 March 2015 - 05:08 PM
Good memory, Bob!
As soon as I looked up the article, it rang a bell, but not before unfortunately... I always liked Floyd Manley's reporting too, he was a funny guy!
Thanks, Greg.
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Posted 26 March 2015 - 06:14 PM
That article spoke very well of Ray Gardner.
Ray sat me down and showed me how to build a chassis when I was struggling trying to get started.
I cant say I remember Ray at that race much but I remember him as a great guy a friend and a mentor.
He was great for slot car racing.
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Posted 26 March 2015 - 06:28 PM
What was that about a "Noose" in the next lane? Joe was everywhere. 
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Posted 26 March 2015 - 08:28 PM
There was one at every raceway. LOL.
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Posted 27 March 2015 - 08:11 PM
I want to thank everyone that took the time to post info about the Gasparillo (Mini) Arco race that I raced in 46 years ago.
Even though I was there for most of the race (Dad drove me home before the final) you filled in details I had no idea about. I vaguely remember qualifying somewhere in the middle of the pack, but didn't make the move up out of my consi. I think I ended up 35th or so out of 63 but that's not too bad for a 15 year old kid at his first "big" race.
Here are a few pictures of the Elfin bodied, three rail, full plumber car I made specifically to run at this Arco. It's all steel/stainless steel, yep, even the axle tubes and motor mount. I brazed (yes brazed!) it together with my acetylene torch set up. It was then glass beaded and nickel plated. I don't recall the gear ratio but I used one of the few silver can Champions with a Champion single 26 wind arm.
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Posted 27 March 2015 - 08:53 PM
Real nice job.
I like the rearward mounted plumber.
I don't recall seeing one with it behind the axle, but I bet it was just as effective.
I like the rearward mounted plumber.
I don't recall seeing one with it behind the axle, but I bet it was just as effective.
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Posted 28 March 2015 - 04:44 AM
Mike, that's where plumber started originally then moved in front of axle then on to drop arm.
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Posted 28 March 2015 - 06:41 AM
Hell of a brazing job for a fifteen-year-old kid... better than a lot of soldered ones I've seen! Beautiful chassis...
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Posted 28 March 2015 - 08:25 AM
It is nice and unique.
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Posted 28 March 2015 - 09:05 AM
Built to stand the test of time. You did great work at fifteen, Jay. Good-looking car.
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Posted 29 March 2015 - 02:43 PM
The Arco races were usually well attended by the pros.
Where were they for this one? It looks like mostly locals.
Where were they for this one? It looks like mostly locals.
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Posted 29 March 2015 - 02:59 PM
Did you read the whole thread, Chris? LOL...
Tampa, FL. This was a "Mini-Arco" race, as I understand it.
Tampa, FL. This was a "Mini-Arco" race, as I understand it.
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Posted 29 March 2015 - 04:00 PM
A little Tiger Milk on those tires and they'll be like new......
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Posted 29 March 2015 - 04:35 PM
Mike, that's where plumber started originally then moved in front of axle then on to drop arm.
Yes, I guess they look so much different on Jay's chassis because they're more prominent with the chassis not as cluttered with U-braces,etc.
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Posted 29 March 2015 - 07:18 PM
Ah, what is a mini-Arco?
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Posted 29 March 2015 - 08:46 PM
Guys-
Clue me in, where are the "plumber" hinges? I see the pan and drop arm hinges but no other.
Puzzled...
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Posted 29 March 2015 - 09:07 PM
On Beach's car, it looks like it's about 5/16"-3/8" behind the front axle, apparently soldered to the drop arm, or possibly the back front axle U-brace.
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Posted 29 March 2015 - 09:17 PM
Thanks Mike, now i see it. I was looking towards the rear.
PS: It seems that steel did not remain "stainless" over 46 years
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Posted 29 March 2015 - 09:26 PM
Bill:
Each pan hinge is mounted on a rail that is hinged about a half inch behind the front axle. The hinge tubes are only about a half inch long and they go across the three rails, one on each side.
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Posted 30 March 2015 - 05:02 AM
Jay,
I was almost at that race, but work got in the way. At that time I was racing at the raceway in Satellite Beach, FL, and I and some of the other racers from there were planning on going. I had even built a couple of anglewinder cars with Mura power to run. My dad and I had sojurned over two weeks prior to test everything out and the cars looked to be very competitive with the locals.
Turns out I didn't get to go as it fell on a weekend that I worked and I couldn't find anyone to switch with me. The other guys from the Satellite Beach track went and didn't fare well. Wish I could have gone as I typically ran well at that track.
Thanks for bringing back this memory.
That's a neat-looking chassis by the way. Shot peening the stainless gave it a very nice patina.
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