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#76 johnford

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 05:09 AM

Bob,
I need to know what Doug did right, and how to best adapt it to 1/32 scale!!! I'm wondering if fiberglass wouldn't work well, build the track with mold's. I'm still trying to see about making the track with 4 lane modules, that would be light enough and small enough to ship inexpensively. I'm still not giving up on it yet!! FWIW

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Tim, Email me direct at fordpub@2fords.net and I'll send you back info on the modular 4 lane 32 scale tracks Hasse and I built throughout the 90's at the American Slot Car Track Factory. The factory cranked out over 600 24th scale tracks, but even with heavy promotion, only sold about 100 32 scale tracks. Home slot racing had not yet come of age..... jf

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#77 Tim Neja

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 08:25 PM

I sent an email John, did you get it? My email is timn@alliedwestpaper.com
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Got it John,
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Posted 05 June 2008 - 10:21 PM

I sent an email John, did you get it? My email is timn@alliedwestpaper.com
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Got it John,
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I got it in a round about sort of way. Helps to own my own email server.... You should have gotten my reply by now.... jf

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Posted 14 June 2008 - 11:48 AM

Way back in this thread somewhere was a comment about Fiberglass tracks...

I haven't been there in 5+ years, but at that time, Trains & Lanes in Bethlehem PA had a Mila Miglia Fiberglass track set up along with a Englemann. Track maitenance & cleaning seemed to be a rather low (ie non-existent) priority, so I ran the Englemann, as it appeared to be in the best shape of the two.

According to Mr Google, they apparently were still in business in December of last year, so if anyone is interested, you might give them a call...
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Posted 15 June 2008 - 11:08 AM

A long, long time ago, somebody made a small wooden track for home use. I remember seeing one set up, in the basement of Ken MacDowell, of Parma fame. He had found in some distributors warehouse. Ken purchased the bunch and sold them through Parma. Again, this was late 60's, early 70's.
However, might it be posible to make an alliance with someone, like Parma??? You make the track, they distribute it. They can include a healthy push for their cars & controllers.

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#81 Tim Neja

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Posted 15 June 2008 - 11:53 AM

That's an EXCELLENT suggestion. IF I can come up with a design-- I'd rather have someone in the trade help push it without my seeing big profits or involvement. I'm going to route my own home track soon-- but I'd still like to come up with a modular design that is marketable.
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Posted 15 June 2008 - 02:35 PM

Hi all...

A number of years ago, I bought a "Quick Start" track and played with it in my living room for a while... It is VERY quick to set up as it is made up of four two by four section of MDF that are hinged together. It just unfolds to make up an L shaped 2 lane track that has 4 foot by four foot section at one end and a main straight that is 12 feet long. The track power is carried through the hinges so there is no wiring to be done during set up. The track is powered by a couple of small power packs that plug in with bannana plugs as do the controllers... Total set up time is maybe two minutes!!! The only drawback is that the braid is recessed Very deeply and the edge of the recess is very sharp and tends to eat up the corners of foam tyres. When I mentioned to some 1/32nd club racers that I had the track, and that the price per foot was about equal to purchasing plastic trackj, they said it was junk and that I could havf bought twice as much used track off e-pay for half as much money... But, then I'd have to build a table, wiring harness, etc. and fight with my Young Lady when I wanted to play with my toys and she wanted to use the living room as a.....GASP....living room??? The track is now folded up and leaning against the wall behind the couch, so if ever the YL goes away, the track will come back....LOL... I will look for the paperwork and post it on the blog if anyone is interested...
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Posted 15 June 2008 - 02:42 PM

Here is a description of the company that made the tracks and of where i bought my track... RadTrax has some four foot straightaway sections that were sold in pairs to extend the straightaway but I didnt buy them as my living room is only 14 feet long...

Hi,

Tim, just out of curiosity, are you familiar with "Quick Trax"? This was a small company of about fifteen years ago that had a similar idea. With a wrinkle. It was two-lane, desiged for Womps before the current 1/32 explosion. The short version of the story is that this extended Mormon family was doing slot car things at "swap meets" around the country. They would show up with a portable slot track and Womps and set up races and the like. To make it easier for the family one of the guys designed this modular system that would not only BE modular( but limited) but the surface itself would fold up into a compact "box" with drawers for the power, cars, and controllers. One of the family had contacts in China that was doing the CNC for them and would cut, finish, and send.

So, their business switched to also selling these ready-to-run packages.

I know that Rad Trax sold a few, but otherwise I have no idea further about their business model or success or lack of it.

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Posted 15 June 2008 - 02:45 PM

This is a link to a picture of a track in use...

I don't know if THIS is the same track you are talking about, Rocky. Mine is a "Quick Start".

The picture was taken at Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course during the Vintage Gran Prix.


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Posted 15 June 2008 - 03:09 PM

Bob we have a race on Sunday at Zeps track. Racing starts at 1pm. We would all love to see you!!!
 

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 02:03 AM

...this extended Mormon family was doing slot car things at "swap meets" around the country. They would show up with a portable slot track and Womps and set up races and the like. To make it easier for the family one of the guys designed this modular system that would not only BE modular( but limited) but the surface itself would fold up into a compact "box" with drawers for the power, cars, and controllers. One of the family had contacts in China that was doing the CNC for them and would cut, finish, and send.


I just saw this in the quote above. I first met Morman Bill (name?!) at a 1990 toy show in Los Angeles. He was across from Parma with a home routed 2 lane track. I thought it was very interesting.

A few years after I began doing fairs with my mobile tracks he called and wanted to discuss what I was doing. (1998) I had a large home track build (Hillclimb) for a customer in Chicago, had contracted Hasse to help build and didn't have a place to build. Bill had a friend in Barstow who loaned us a vacant warehouse (very rough) and the three of us built the track and another small one. Bill video taped some of the work to help him work up a plan for building his own track systems. Shortly after he began a unique set of tracks using 1/2" PVC with aluminum joints/understructure and billed it as "outdoor" compatible (which I warned him about due to braid issues). Bill sold the tracks through a party equipment seller in TX. Recently there was a post about one of his tracks for sale on ebay from FL. (Didn't sell as the guy paid about $15K and wanted $8K). Very nice systems for portable use. Check out where he's at today @ http://happytimespar...m/Slot Cars.htm .

Several years ago he called and wanted me to come see his operation and maybe get involved but I was busy and wasn't able. He's still based in Victorville, CA and I see he's still using the tracks but not sure if he's still building. He hand routes the tracks, no CNC.

PVC (or a similar material) IS the way to go.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 08:23 PM

WOW-- that's cool Bob-- thanks. I'll contact him and go up to Victorville to see his tracks. PVC?? I'll look into that definitely.
See you at Del Mar.
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 05:19 AM

Bob we have a race on Sunday at Zeps track. Racing starts at 1pm. We would all love to see you!!!


Hi John...

I hope to be at Zep on Sunday... I am bringing my collection of magazines (Car Model, Model Car Science, Model Car and Track, Model Cars Illustrated, and a few other oddities, plus i will bring the last version of the RC car Russkit handeled radio that you tried in the lat 60's...
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 06:45 AM

Hi John...

I hope to be at Zep on Sunday... I am bringing my collection of magazines (Car Model, Model Car Science, Model Car and Track, Model Cars Illustrated, and a few other oddities, plus i will bring the last version of the RC car Russkit handeled radio that you tried in the lat 60's...

Bob thats great. I cant wait to see you again. Stay well!!
 

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:56 AM

I don't know if this guy can offer any insight, to building a modular track, but he uses a flat bed router to make small tracks. Check him out at http://www.oldslotra.../SlotWorks.html. I suppose his method could be used to make modular sections. I know that Professor Motor had a small track routed by a CNC machine. So, it looks like sections could be machine routed. Could it be done cheaply enough? I don't really know.

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 06:46 AM

Guys

I found this somewhere and wondered if some knows more about it. Maybe another flop??

The huge Max Trax on the right hand side of their homepage belongs to a friend of mine and I raced HO on it for a few years. Best layout and most fun with HOs ever. When I raced on it it was fully detailed and looked beautiful. Not just a piece of formica with lanes... YUCK!!

For 1/32 club racing around these parts guys are either using modular plastic track (Scaley Sport seems to be most popular; even I have some of that) or a routed MDF track.

There are some excellent guys in the New England area that are a club and help out other clubs building their own tracks for just the fun of it. Owners buy all the materials, and adult beverages, and they get to work. And I raced on a number of these and they are nice.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:52 PM

Vegas Raceway (Las Vegas, NV) on Charleston Blvd had a giant green fiberglass track with an extreme banked turn at one end. Same construction as others mentioned here (glass with textured roadway). Lousy traction and lots of launched cars at the turn after the banking ended. I think they finally put up a plastic shield.

VR had two or three other tracks as well, all the more conventional masonite/plywood/plastic types. I have no idea where the glass track (or any of the others) ended up after VR closed.

Mid-'60s Las Vegas had VR, Tiny Tim (three conventionals), RoadRunner (three conventionals) and Burt's. Burt's was a homebuilt, all left turns, bare brass screws for the controllers. Burt took care of us like we were his own kids and gave away as much time as he sold...

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:45 AM

Wow, took 4 years for this thread to get back on topic! :laugh2:

Lots of interesting stuff in between though.

Cheers eh,

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:49 AM

Now to take it back off topic, anyone know if Kal Kar track ever took off at all? Tim Neja is this what you had in mind for your modular track?

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