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#26 Terry

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:50 PM

Iga... still clubbing baby seals after all these years.  :D


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Posted 21 July 2017 - 10:16 AM

Couple of old "Alpha" Seals getting ready for this fun class!


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 02:03 PM

Mark Rosenwinkel broke all Group F records last night with the new C/R $24.95 wing chassis.

 

He broke the old total of 278 laps, by 3, with a whopping 281 laps.

 

He also became the first racer to run a 37 lap heat, almost running 38.

 

And he broke the single lap record, with a 3.160, breaking the old record of 3.17, which was a one lap, comm drop, special.

 

I'm wrapping up all my orders for pinned guides, by today, or tomorrow, so I should be getting these out to Eagle Dist. in the next few days.


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Posted 04 August 2017 - 09:17 PM

I'll put my order in for one now, Mike.

 

You going to Frank's place for the Nats?

 

If so, bring one...


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 07:32 PM

These were finally shipped out to Eagle Dist., earlier today.

 

As mentioned, the kit retails for $24.95.

 

They should have them Monday or Tuesday.


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Posted 17 August 2017 - 04:38 AM

Ya need to let folks know its a kit and not assembled. We were going to order some until we found this out.


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Posted 17 August 2017 - 07:42 AM

Post #3 clearly state's that.
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Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:07 AM

How do these go on a flat track? OK or are they too light weight?



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:20 AM

They would be a disaster on our Nats track :(



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:21 AM

They would probably work fine with a wing body.

 

I ran a G27 wing car around an MTT, probably around 20 years ago.

 

It was fun, at least on the middle lane I ran on.

 

Not sure with a GTP body, but it might be an interesting experiment.


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Posted 24 August 2017 - 01:08 AM

They would be a disaster on our Nats track :(

 

Do you say that from a view of experience Zip or just an assessment?

 

I think they may be not too bad with a 4002 and a Wing Car body....



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Posted 24 August 2017 - 06:56 AM

 

Do you say that from a view of experience Zip or just an assessment?

 

I think they may be not too bad with a 4002 and a Wing Car body....

 

If you want to try and re-invent the wheel, go for it.



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Posted 15 January 2018 - 02:49 PM

This is a really nice chassis. Most inexpensive and light for the money. As light as Beuf Express Light chassis if the pans are removed. One thing is that the motor does not align exactly against the chassis like on a Beuf. It is more at an angle so you can only get a spot solder point on the shaft side of the can and on the side of the can to the rear of the frame. If you need support you will have to add a brass tube. The other thing is that the chassis is blued, so Perma Blue works perfectly to address scratches or blue areas that need it. The chassis is strong and well built.
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Posted 18 January 2018 - 12:39 AM

What kind of motor are you using?

Here's are pictures of the 4 racers cars from tonight's Group F race, that used the C/R chassis, and the motors look like they fit pretty much, perfect.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 12:22 PM

I'm using a Proslot C-Can. I think it's because of the gearing it's a lower one 9/38 that makes it more necessary to go more at an angle? What gearing are they using? I'm sure a larger pinion and spur would make it align.
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Posted 19 January 2018 - 12:42 PM

I'm sure they are geared with at least a 11 tooth.
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Posted 19 January 2018 - 12:43 PM

The pic makes it look like 12 or 13 tooth
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Posted 19 January 2018 - 01:03 PM

14t is most common @ Chicagoland :good:


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 01:12 PM

That is alot of gear.
Does everyone run cut brushes?
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Posted 19 January 2018 - 01:40 PM

While as you found out, Mario, C cans fit, the chassis is designed primarily for Group F racing, hence the name.

A common gear ratio, as Bernie alluded to, is 14-37.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 01:59 PM

That is alot of gear.
Does everyone run cut brushes?

No, they do not.
 
I'd say about 1/3 or 1/2 do.
 
Really not necessary for cool enough running.
 
Especially when you have 2 of these.
 
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Posted 19 January 2018 - 02:03 PM

Thank you for all the replies/help.
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Posted 19 January 2018 - 02:04 PM

Now if I can just get my Difalco wired up I'll be all set to go.
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Posted 25 January 2018 - 06:15 PM

What would be a fast gear ratio (64 pitch) on this chassis with a Group 20 Proslot 38 degree motor? Any suggestions?
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Posted 26 January 2018 - 12:24 AM

I seldom see a G20 at my raceway, so I can only guess.

Start with 8-38 or 8-39.

If it runs cool, try a 9T pinion.
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