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#26 MSwiss

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 04:48 PM

This wasn't a Parts Counter ad. LOL.


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Posted 25 April 2018 - 12:50 PM

I hope this works better than the experimental guide I made in the '90s. I too believed the weight mounted low and in front would be an advantage. Instead of a "blade" inserted in the flag, I drilled a series of holes from the top down into the blade and inserted tungsten wire. While I felt positive a difference, both the clock and race results said otherwise.

 

The guide was heavy (IIRC about 7 grams) and may have upset the chassis balance.

 

Much has changed in 25 years and perhaps this idea has finally ready for prime time. 


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Posted 25 April 2018 - 12:54 PM

I was thinking titanium... it's pretty heavy, too. And I just happen to know where some is available! LOL!

 

Titanium is lighter than steel. I have some cut sheets about .060" thick come to think about it.

 

I can't remember what happened to the tungsten wire I had. 


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Posted 25 April 2018 - 01:14 PM

I hope this works better than the experimental guide I made in the 90s. I too believed the weight mounted low and in front would be an advantage. Instead of a "blade" inserted in the flag, I drilled a series of holes from the top down into the blade and inserted tungsten wire. While I felt positive a difference, both the clock and race results said otherwise.'

 

The guide was heavy (IIRC about 7 grams) and may have upset the chassis balance.

 

Much has changed in 25 years and perhaps this idea has finally ready for prime time. 

 

Seven grams seems really heavy for doing what you described.

 

On Gugu's Facebook post, he has the weight of mine at 2.5 grams vs. 1.7 grams for a stock guide.

 

I addressed chassis balance in my last FB post:

 

"I'm 100% convinced it is an advantage for Wing cars, for startup, with less popping. As far as scale cars, I think the advantage would be by removing .8-1 grams off of the front the car, as not to upset the balance. If you are unable to do that, then you would compensate by pushing any added weight, such as lead, further back."


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Posted 25 April 2018 - 01:41 PM

There is a better and stronger way to do this.
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Posted 25 April 2018 - 02:11 PM

This wasn't a Parts Counter ad. LOL.

 
I did a few more and I'm going to ahead and market it.
 
$8.00 each... unthreaded
$8.50 each... threaded
 
Three piece minimum if it is the only item ordered.
 
I'll get up the Parts Counter ad later.
 

PayPal loaded, Mike. Need a total.  :)

 
Add $4 for First Class shipping to whatever total you want.

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 07:41 AM

I'm 100% convinced it is an advantage for Wing cars

 

Last night, Alex Block broke Michael Iga's Group F lap record, at my raceway, by a whopping three laps. Alex turned six 36 lap heats, and two 35 lap heats, to become the first racer to run at least 35, in every heat. He also improved on his record lap time on black.


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Posted 26 April 2018 - 10:01 AM

7 grams seems really heavy for doing what you described.

 

On Gugu's FB post, he has the weight of mine at 2.5G. vs. 1.7G, for a stock guide.

 

I addressed chassis balance in my last FB post;

 

I'm 100% convinced it is an advantage for Wing cars, for startup, with less popping. As far as scale cars, I think the advantage would be by removing .8-1 G off of the front the car, as not to upset the balance. If you are unable to do that, then you would compensate by pushing any added weight, such as lead, further back.

 

The "IIRC" said it all. So maybe it was 5 grams. Tungsten is *really* dense, several times brass. I looked for the guide (I have it somewhere) so I could weigh it again. The idea was to help prevent "popping" on restarts after track calls. It wasn't a "handling" mod...


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Posted 26 April 2018 - 10:59 AM

With the guide's being shorter back then, I'll guess it weighs 4 grams.

What did you have that baby on? Your first LaCucaracha, or Classic Asp? You should find it and take some pics. Guys would love to see it.

And I bet Foamy could make good use of it on a no-bar car.


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Posted 26 April 2018 - 03:36 PM

What did you have that baby on?

 

USRA G27 or Group 7.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:43 AM

Mike,

could you show or explain, how you cut the slot into the blade?
I would like to modify a guide of a BRM hardbody car. I think this could be an advantage for this car, too.

Thanks in advance!

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