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#26 tonyp

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 06:44 PM

Finally got a chance to use the wire the other day. Solders great.


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Posted 27 August 2018 - 09:08 PM

Here's a Dominator built chassis, using the plated wire for the main rails.

 

He originally hadn't mentioned it on his FB post (NBD), but the chassis caught my eye, especially little things like the solder joint on the down stop tube, soldered in front of the right side of the motor.

 

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Posted 01 October 2018 - 10:35 AM

Below is a chassis, built by my partner in crime, Chuck Gambo. (among other things, we collaborated on the JK F1 and X25R chassis)

After using my plated .039" wire for the main rails, his comment was "How can anyone use anything else?"

 

PS - This is a "non-tumbled" chassis.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 05:38 AM

Regarding plated wire, what are the benefits? Easy to solder? less prone to rusting?

 

Im keen to try some. I tried a scratchbuild with some K&S paniowire and it was really hard to solder but it looked like it had some sort of coating on it.

I was going to contact a panio tuner to see if they had any wire available.


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 06:33 AM

Mike Swiss’s wire solders with no prep and doesn’t rust unless you sand off plating.

Standard piano wire like aK&S has a coating you need to sand off before soldering.


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 06:54 AM

Mike Swiss’s wire solders with no prep and doesn’t rust unless you sand off plating.

Standard piano wire like aK&S has a coating you need to sand off before soldering.


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OK that explains why i had so much trouble soldering the stuff!


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 07:08 AM

If one uses non-plated piano wire, they should fold over a pc of 320 grit, or finer, sandpaper, and run the wire back and forth, in between, rotating it around a bit.

And then after soldering, wipe down real well with soapy water.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 04:22 PM

I would like to try some, do I just message Mike direct to order it?


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 05:03 PM

Yup.


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 06:15 PM

I've gone through close to 40 feet of the .062 plated and its been awesome.

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Posted 28 December 2018 - 04:30 PM

Congrats to Dale Yamashita on his Can Am win last Saturday at BP, using C/R plated wire on self-built chassis.

 

Dale also used a C/R pinned Red Fox guide, a C/R 2 degree guide tongue, and a C/R 1" Versa-bracket.

 

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 07:40 PM

I put the plating quality to the ultimate tests when I bent this front 1/16 axle for a Thingy chassis

 

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The wheel bores were very tight, even after reaming them and even with regular wire.

I spun the Swiss wire in my drill and sanded it with 400 then 2000 grits.

Got them spinning free. The plating didn't even flinch :good:

 

But that didn't surprize me. What is really impressed me was it's ability to withstand much more bending, rebending, tweaking with pliers than I care to admit. Again, the plating withstood it all with "shining colors" :diablo:

 

To withstand that amount of abuse is amazing. I'll call it a "10" on the "Wolcott Hardness Scale".

Four thumbs up on this product :good: :good: :good: :good:


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Posted 15 February 2019 - 10:36 AM

I just replied to someone's request for the plated wire.

 

It sums up the status on it, so I'm cut-n-pasting that response, and posting it, below;

 

The plated wire has really been picked through.

 

The real straight/primo stuff is long gone.

 

Unfortunately, it's been a bad time for wire, with getting fairly straight stuff, a toss-up.

 

All I have of smaller sizes is .047", .055", and .062".

 

I'm selling it at only 30 cents a foot, so customers aren't disappointed.

 

I also have .078", if you happen to use that.

 

60 cents a foot, and it's good.

 

I'll be doing more in the future, but to make it work, $$$wise, it has to be done with other stuff to plate.

 

I can't predict exactly when that will be, as all aspects of my business (parties, weighted guides, local racing, distributor sales, regular mail order) have been strong, not affording me the time to design new stuff, to get lasered and plated, plus driving over to K&S, to get in a couple fist fights with my friends over there, making sure if I buy a ton of wire, it's decent.


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Posted 15 February 2019 - 04:41 PM

Ok, update.

 

The customer that inquired, bought some, and the rest was purchased by a prominent chassis builder, so I am now totally out, until further notice.


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Posted 03 January 2020 - 10:11 AM

Any news on the plated wire?

 

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Posted 03 January 2020 - 10:23 AM

Possibly 4 weeks.

I've been working on a large project in the raceway, that's been distracting me quite a bit.

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 01:52 AM

  Any updates on the ETA of the plated wire?


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Posted 13 February 2020 - 08:24 AM

I better not quote anything.

It has to be done in conjunction with something else, and this is a crazy month.

Lots of weighted guides to make, 10 parties(in a short month) working on the drag strip, and a couple wing races.
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Posted 13 February 2020 - 01:15 PM

When you have it I'd like to try some Mike!!  :)   .062 and .055 and .047??  What's going to be available?' 

 

 

Okay--10' each of the sizes above would get me started!!   :victory:


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Posted 13 February 2020 - 01:40 PM

Every size, .025" - .093".


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Posted 15 February 2020 - 08:06 AM

Count me on for a bunch of .032-39.


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Posted 15 February 2020 - 11:46 AM

Me too!



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Posted 15 February 2020 - 04:16 PM

Mike,

 

Is this going to be 1' lengths?  Also, are you going to be taking pre-orders?  Thanks...

 

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 05:14 PM

Yes, 1 ft., just like last time.

No preorders, because I'm not sure what the price will be.

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 05:32 PM

Mike:

What about nickel plating your steel guide tongues and braces?


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